Calorie count to be required on beer?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by mudbug, Feb 2, 2015.

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  1. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    Just stop eating candy and all the processed foods and refined sugars.

    I choose to drink beer instead of eating sugary, carb loaded food. Steak, veggies and a beer, yes please.
     
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  2. beernazi

    beernazi Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2012 California

    i always look at calories on food, but beer, i just figure its obviously too much and i dont even wanna know...
     
  3. Oktoberfiesta

    Oktoberfiesta Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2013 New Mexico

    Just how accurate is MyFitnesspal (fitday app) though?
    Some examples

    Leinenkugels cranberry ginger shandy 4.2% 142 calories. 12 ounces
    Victory Hop ranch 9% 270 calories. 12 ounces
    Victory Dirtwolf 8.7% 261 calories. 12 ounces
    La Cumbre Elevated IPA 7.2% 288 calories. 16 ounces
    La Cumbre malpais stout 7.5% 210 calories. 16 ounces
    Guinness FES 7.5% abv 176 calories. 11.2 ounces
    Marble IPA 6.8% abv 204 calories. 12 ounces.
    Sn Hop Hunter picks up as "Beer (SN torpedo)" 236 calolries. 12 ounces
    **Not perfect. Marble Oatmeal stout picks up as Blue Moon lol. But the first seven do tend to pick up with the correct name.

    Elevated's FG is super low, same as Malpais stout. I would think they would be within the same range, even though Malpais starts out with a much bigger range of malts. The dry stouts tend to end super low. Why drink a Marble IPA when you can have a ABV boost and flavor boost with the dry stouts??

    I would personally like a calorie listing somewhere, however small it may be. The conversion/math/ultimate setup interests me as a homebrewer
     
  4. mtskier

    mtskier Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2013 Illinois

    whaaa. did not know this
     
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  5. Dope

    Dope Pooh-Bah (2,925) Oct 5, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Agreed. I can estimate but I would like to know actual caloric count and macro breakdown. Some people might never read a label but I track everything I eat and drink. It's my dream that all beer (and liquor) are required to have nutrition labels.
     
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  6. Dope

    Dope Pooh-Bah (2,925) Oct 5, 2010 Massachusetts
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    I've been on MFP for 4 years. If a food database entry has an asterisk next to it, it's user-entered (which is about 99% of the entries). So most times it's just someone like me entering it in the database, using an estimate. These entries are not validated by the administration at all. I've entered probably around 1500 myself.

    Dope
     
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  7. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
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    It seems to me that this thread pretty much sums up the government study on this issue.
    People that care about calorie labeling already use some other method of counting calories.(but would like it ever easier)
    People that don't care, well, couldn't care less.
    FDA mandatory labeling of beer calories will serve no useful function in the real world
     
  8. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    I'd like to know the calories in the beers I drink...because if I don't watch my figure...no one else will:wink:
     
  9. gopens44

    gopens44 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,560) Aug 9, 2010 Virginia
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    More programs = more money. They are seeking to protect jobs through maintaining current programs or expanding others. They also revel in the idea of trying to manipulate behavior based on what they have decided is best. THIS is the problem with government regulation run wild.

    As for calorie count, if the FDA allows an estimation, than it's simple to add it to labels. No biggie (other than the goodness knows how many new bureaucrats hired to "manage" said program). BUT if the FDA required exact counts, than in my opinion, you can say goodbye to one-offs, some seasonals and lots of special releases from small breweries where the additional $1000 in lab fees or so for each calorie determination would destroy any profit in said one off, seasonal or special release.
     
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  10. lambpasty

    lambpasty Initiate (0) May 3, 2013 New Hampshire

    I tend to agree. I generally just do the math in my head if I'm really curious, however I'm not going to spend $15 on a bomber of Speedway and then calculate the calories and say "oh no, my shredded glutes will lose all striation if I so much as smell it!" and not drink it as a result. If I bought it and want it, I'm drinking it.

    When I diet very strictly for the purpose of losing body fat %, I just don't drink at all. If I'm not dieting super strictly, I drink. I tend to think that many of those very serious about dieting (and those who tend to do some form of cyclic diet) probably use a similar strategy and either cut it completely or by 90%+ while in BF% reduction mode given all the detrimental things alcohol does when you're trying to lose weight anyway.

    So again, I'm either not drinking at all, or I'm drinking whatever I want (within a reasonable amount) and not really caring about caloric content. I'm probably at one end of the spectrum, with others who just don't care at all in the other end. I don't know that the middle of the spectrum where people are semi-serious or just sort of curious about calorie counts is really reason enough to bother adding this info, given that there's a lot of third party info out there and in general the math is simple if you want to do it yourself.

    I don't think it's worth the extra stress on the brewers.
     
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  11. misternebbie

    misternebbie Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Most time I don't want to know, I'd rather blissfully bury my head in the hops,grains and barley!
     
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  12. Beejis60

    Beejis60 Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2009 New York

    It's not hard from the brewery's perspective. You just need the gravities and some simple multiplication.
     
  13. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    it isn't hard at all, there are tons of tiny food companies that are required to do it and they do, i'm not saying anyone should or shouldn't be obligated to provide it but just to answer your question its pretty easy.
     
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  14. ManBearPat

    ManBearPat Pooh-Bah (1,813) Dec 2, 2014 Colorado
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  15. Absolut

    Absolut Maven (1,353) Sep 19, 2011 California

    Why we have to idiot proof the world.

    Beer has calories

    Don't play in the dryer.

    Coffee is hot

    McDonald's makes you fat

    You may choke on Legos

    Riding in a canoe with herpes is fun
     
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  16. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Pooh-Bah (2,851) Jun 18, 2012 Missouri
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    I choose to drink beer instead of drinking pop/soda.

    I'll be called a dick for this, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the people who don't care about the calories in beer are ones who don't care whether they're in shape or not.
     
  17. miketd

    miketd Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio

    People were never in good shape before calorie labels...

    Your statement may be correct(or not), but just because you know a can of Miller Lite has 100 calories isn't really helping much, either way. When I was a young man and concerned more about my personal six pack rather than the one at the store, I knew what to eat and what not to without the FDA's help.
     
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  18. RyanMcFly1985

    RyanMcFly1985 Savant (1,222) Oct 20, 2007 Ohio
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    I am someone who does make note of calories when I can, as I am a pretty serious runner and try to maintain a certain level of fitness to stay competitive. However, if you told me that a favorite beer of mine like Columbus Bodhi had 200 calories or 500 calories, it probably couldn't change the amount I would consume.
     
  19. mwa423

    mwa423 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2007 Ohio

    So, I wonder if places that serve different sizes (Yard House for example who have at least 4-5 sizes on the menu) will just say 32 calories per oz and then leave the customer to do the math, or if the draft list will become a complicated matrix of prices in different pours alongside calorie count.

    I can already read the Applebees' new special:

    10 Beers under 200 Calories to Pair with your 600 Calorie Bar Dinner
     
  20. Jlabs

    Jlabs Pooh-Bah (2,682) Nov 11, 2013 New York
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    as someone who mainly drinks Stouts/Porters, i know that most (if not all of them) are high calorie beers..and while it might deter me from drinking one from time to time..I'd still like to know
     
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