Country specific IPAs

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  1. Portertime

    Portertime Pundit (924) Sep 9, 2006 Florida

    Since there are region specific IPAs in the US (west coast, NE) why not have country specific like an IPA with just Siracha Ace is a Japanese IPA or IPA with just German or Australian hop strains. Just curious what y'all think.
     
  2. Portertime

    Portertime Pundit (924) Sep 9, 2006 Florida

  3. islay

    islay Savant (1,211) Jan 6, 2008 Minnesota

    The regional and country-named IPAs generally refer to the region or country of origin (or at least popularization) of the style or substyle; it's not really about the source of the hops. Keep in mind that most of the hops used in NEIPAs are grown in America's West Coast (of course, NEIPAs are an evolution of certain WCIPAs, so that shouldn't be surprising). Belgian IPAs are a bit of an exception, in that they're named based more on the presence of Belgian-style yeast than on where they originated (not that there aren't Belgian IPAs brewed in Belgium), but "Belgian ale" conveys a little more information than does "Japanese ale" or "German ale."

    If, say, German breweries en masse ever develop a distinct local IPA substyle, which may or may not utilize traditional German hops, then that's what I'd call a German IPA. I wouldn't call an IPA brewed by an American brewery a "German IPA" just because it utilized Hallertauer Mittelfrueh hops (or whatever is your German hop of choice), even though I have seen beers listed that way.
     
  4. Ahonky

    Ahonky Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2018 New York

    I think you should stop thinking
     
  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have discussed the topic of “German IPA” in past threads of the Germany forum. In addition to using ‘new wave’ German aroma hops such as Mandarina Bavaria those sorts of beers could have a differing malt bill – maybe some Munich and/or Vienna Malt to provide a more balanced IPA.

    Cheers!

    @boddhitree
     
  6. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    A local brewery, Blueprint Brewing - had a beer that was labeled a "Vienna IPA", you can see my brief review below. Not sure about the hop varieties though.
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/49831/328121/
     
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  7. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    'Cause nobody else makes great IPAs like we do.

    'Merica!
     
  8. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Well, I think it's more about what hop varieties make sense to be used at certain levels.

    I had a beer one time that was hopped to the level of an American IPA but using Fuggle hops. Not good.
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Scarlet Lane Brewing produced a beer they branded as Asteria Australian IPA:

    “Scarlet Lane Brewing Company

    July 16, 2017 ·

    Our newest member to the family, Asteria Australian IPA is available on draft. Fruity Aussie hops, Aussie yeast finishes w/ mild bitterness.”



    I am personally a BIG fan of Galaxy hops; why not label an IPA that features a hop like Galaxy an Australian IPA?

    And then there could be beers branded a New Zealand IPA that feature hops like Motueka, Nelson Sauvin, Riwaka, Wai-iti, etc.

    Cheers!
     
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  10. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

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  11. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Someone ought to concoct a No England IPA, like say in San Diego.....
     
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  12. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,041) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    There are plenty of German IPAs around that are brewed exclusively with German hops, just like I'm sure there are plenty of other region-specific IPAs as well. What makes you think there wouldn't be?
     
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  13. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Is what you're saying it's not always about the hops, many hops are grown in the PNW, rarely it's about the yeast, and in future it will be up to the region to identify their IPA based on their own parameters?
     
  14. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    What about the grain bill of those beers? Are they typically comprised of pale malt or is it the case that darker kilned malts (e.g., Vienna, Munich,...) are part of the grain bill to create a more balanced IPA?

    Prost!
     
  16. islay

    islay Savant (1,211) Jan 6, 2008 Minnesota

    Nope. What I'm saying is it's never about the hops and always about the region of origin (or at least popularization), with the lone exception of Belgian IPA, because there already was a long tradition of referring to "Belgian ales" as a broad style category including beers that merely nodded toward the techniques, ingredients, and flavor profiles for which Belgium is famous. If a bunch of German breweries, say, start pumping out IPAs using Golden Promise malt and Motueka hops, that's the sort of beer that will lay claim to a "German IPA" designation, with the country of origin of the ingredients being irrelevant. American craft breweries aren't going to impose an IPA substyle on any other country, even if some of them out of self-perceived cleverness (or in jest) choose to label their Saaz-hopped IPAs as "Bohemian IPAs" and the like.
     
  17. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Sure glad you cleared that up
     
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  18. Lahey

    Lahey Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    I had one called black forest ale, it was pretty damn good. I believe it was a house brew at schlosskeller in pforzheim. They had a bit of international brews on bottle too, yum.
     
  19. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,041) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    The ones where I have access to that information all use Pilsner malt, but also Vienna, Munich or Caramel malt in addition to that.
     
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