Enough Coffee Already?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by hopley, Jul 26, 2016.

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  1. Gaddabble

    Gaddabble Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2014 Ohio
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    Willoughby Brewing Company's Kaffee Kolsch is honestly one of my favorite beers of all time. :flushed:
     
  2. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    I'm in. I think I'm going to try French-pressing a Headless Heron with some ground espresso beans. :slight_smile:

    To the OP's question: I like coffee and I like coffee beers. While I enjoy beers that are brewed with coffee as an additive (Sumatra Mountain, GI Fulton Street), I really love the coffee notes in stouts and black ales and such that come from the roasted malts. The craft of brewing is an amazing thing.
     
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  3. GabberGod

    GabberGod Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2014 California

    I hate coffee and therefore I hate coffee in my beer the majority of the time. That being said I do quite enjoy some beers that have coffee (Naughty Sauce, Mocha IPA & Big Bad Baptist). I'm ok with lots of coffee beers though, there is enough craft beer out there to have variety, if people want to make coffee beers, let them. As long as they keep making barrel aged beers and mexican style stouts I'm cool with whatever. The only style I don't get are sours. Not sure how people can enjoy infected beer.
     
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  4. teromous

    teromous Grand Pooh-Bah (3,180) Mar 21, 2010 Virginia
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    Would this do?
     
  5. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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  6. NickyDee21

    NickyDee21 Initiate (0) Dec 23, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Coffee in stouts, browns, cream ales, and porters? Keep it up. Flavors play very well off each other and we are usually left with a great beer. Coffee in hoppy beers? I am not a fan. The occasional one is interesting to try, but I generally find this to be odd. I am shocked it has been going on for as long as it has.
     
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  7. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Love coffee beers, including coffee IPA, which I thought would taste gross but done right tastes amazing. Whether it's real coffee addition or coffee notes from a good roast malt done well coffee adds a lot to a beer. Especially love a good strong coffee note in a porter.

    I also like traditional beers, every style of lager, Flanders reds, beers done without hops, or beers done with chile peppers or herbs, Love a good wild ale, the funkier the better. Love a good cleared out and piney grapefruit pith west coast IPA and a murky juice bomb NE IPA too, I even like Kvass. Still expecting to find some style of beer I don't like, but not too many left I haven't tried, and it ain't happened yet.

    So many folks don't like so many different beers. Am I the only one here who likes em all?
     
  8. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Naw, you're not alone, but given a choice between flavors that come from the use of hops and malts in some combination while brewing and those that come from additives to create or strengthen the flavors I'll go for the former almost every time.
     
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  9. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Yeah, like I posted earlier in the thread, it's a palatability issue with me. I just don't find that the flavor of coffee weaves in with the beer flavors at all; it tends to stand on its own with too sharp edges. Kind of like the beer is a tapestry, and the coffee is someone drawing over it with sharpie. Since I can readily get other beers featuring these flavors presented in a more cohesive manner, I prefer to go in that direction.
     
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  10. mikeinportc

    mikeinportc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,735) Nov 4, 2015 New York
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    20% lower risk of skin cancer. Embrace the bean. Jes' sayin'
     
  11. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    As soon as they make a coffee that tastes, ya know, good. And, I live in a rainforest, I only see the sun about 11 days a year, so I'm not really worried about skin cancer.:wink:
     
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  12. mikeinportc

    mikeinportc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,735) Nov 4, 2015 New York
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    I didn't drink coffee until I was older than you. Then a couple of co-workers were out with carpel-tunnel surgery. I had to work with my brother & his partner-in-crime for a couple of weeks. (fall cleanups). Load the trucks > coffee> 2 jobs > coffee > 1 or 2 jobs > lunch > 1 or 2 jobs > coffee > 1-3 more jobs > coffee > 1 more job > end of day > coffee. :slight_smile:))) Many years later...his store manager/office job had his health declining, so he's down to 1/day over the last year, among other health cleanups, & I'm drinking ~3-4/day. Dammit, Joe! :slight_smile:))
     
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  13. Mindflow

    Mindflow Initiate (0) Jul 9, 2016 Florida

    I love coffee more than life. That being said, I love coffee beers more than coffee :wink:

    Not the biggest fan of coffee in IPA's but will have to try the Stone mocha
     
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  14. hopley

    hopley Pooh-Bah (2,912) Feb 24, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Thanks everyone for chiming in! I never imagined I would get this many comments, much less this much love for coffee, despite the initial quasi-disparaging title of the post!

    The big irony for me as the OP is that while I still don’t budge from my initial sentiments regarding too much of a coffee trend, and liking my beer with hops and only the occasional additive, I have written down each and every acclaimed coffee beer mentioned in this thread and even plan to go my local package store to buy and taste some of them to see what I’m missing…!

    And so in the effort to create an “additive series” – maybe even a new forum title he boldly proclaims – here are a few probably used and abuses titles for future posts…
    • No More Fruit Additives…Unless it’s a Belgian
    • Cocoa Added to Stouts is OK, Except When it’s too Bitter
    • The Addition of Spices to Beer has to be Subtle
    • Chili Added to Beer Always Sucks, Regardless
    • Vegetables Added to Beer Usually Sucks
    • Used Animal Parts Added to Beer Always Sucks, Unless it’s Done With Attitude
    And that folks, is all I got to say!! Cheers!
     
  15. deleted_user_1111368

    deleted_user_1111368 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2016 Delaware

    Too much coffee can have the same effect :astonished:
     
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  16. jj139

    jj139 Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2013 California

    Love coffee - but please not in my beer.
     
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  17. deleted_user_1111368

    deleted_user_1111368 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2016 Delaware

    I tried a couple different cream ales last night. Popped open a Ballast Point - Calm Before The Storm.. flavored with coffee and vanilla. It was a little disjointed to me. I couldn't blame it on the coffee, or the vanilla per se...the flavors just didn't mesh imo. It wasn't horrible, but I moved on rather quickly.
     
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  18. mikeinportc

    mikeinportc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,735) Nov 4, 2015 New York
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    That was what I started to get to, before distractions. :slight_smile:
    One of my new favorite things this year has been S. Tier 2XPRESSO + hot pepper (datil, most of the time.) 3 great things together.

    At first, it was because of cost. I was getting it for $8.99/6, as compared to brewed chile stouts for $10+/22oz., a huge advantage, if it worked. It did. It also had the advantage of balancing the black coffee bitterness. (I don't drink it black.) Also, in food & drink, I generally like a mix of distinct flavors, rather than a homogeneous blend, so it is better adding my own. All out now. Can't wait 'til next year. :slight_smile:

    "Used Animal Parts Added to Beer Always Sucks, Unless it’s Done With Attitude"
    W-T-F? What beer(s) fits that category?

    Too much coffee? Not so far. It's good, until it isn't. Haven't had a bad one, but I have bypassed some that seemed gimmicky, so may have just gotten ~lucky.
     
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  19. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    My problem is more with the amount of flavor that is added to some beers more than the flavors themselves. Hints of coffee, chocolate fruits ect are fine as long as the beer tastes like a beer. I don't want a beer that tastes like fruit juice or a child's drink.
     
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  20. Hwk-I-St8

    Hwk-I-St8 Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2016 Iowa

    I really have zero interest in coffee in my beer unless it's a heavy stout. Even then I have mixed emotions.

    Some coffee stouts taste like they over-roasted the barley and then decided to call it a coffee stout because it was so roasty. Other's have tremendous coffee flavor without tasting like someone emptied an ashtray into my beer. Those are really good, but also less common.
     
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