Julian Calendar dating. Why?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by themack22, Mar 19, 2018.

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  1. themack22

    themack22 Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2014

    I find it weird that it seems I am the only one that cares. Convince me otherwise.

    18118 would be confusing whereas 18078 (today) is not as confusing, but still a little bit confusing. Why?!?!
     
  2. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    It is not Julian Calendar dating. The Julian Calendar is a different thing entirely.

    It is simply a Julian date (or day number).

    The purpose of the system is to make it easy to compute an integer (whole number) difference between one calendar date and another calendar date. This has an advantage for inventory tracking systems, for example. Such manufacturing or management purposes are the reason it is a common from of date coding products.

    It is not done for consumer convenience.
     
  3. JFresh21

    JFresh21 Savant (1,036) Mar 6, 2012 Illinois
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    I hate this. I do not buy Julian dated beer.
     
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  4. themack22

    themack22 Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2014

    Well that's for sure lol. It's funny, I've seen social media managers for several breweries field this question repeatedly in comments sections. You'd think they'd be able to get their machine to stamp out a real US formatted date right next to it. Cheers.

    Man, you're missing out on some great beer (Mikkeller, Ballast Point). Cheers.
     
  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    "Only one" ? Really? I've never seen any positive comments about Julian dating - other than my own, of course. :grin:
     
  6. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    It's because people figured out the Caligula dating scheme.
     
  7. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Refusal to provides consumers with easily understandable bottling dates is intentional and feeble excuses for not doing so is balderdash.
     
  8. rather

    rather Initiate (0) May 31, 2013 California

    I don't mind Julian dates at all. I do get wierd looks when I hold up lagunitas beer trying to find the date tho :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  9. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Savant (1,236) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    Every month has ~30 days. Divide the number by 30, figure out which month it's from.

    It's not ideal for knowing the EXACT day of packaging, but first week of jan is more than enough info to make a purchasing decision (or for warehouse/stock people to rotate first in first out)
     
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  10. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    @Squire already beat me to it!

    There is no excuse for breweries not providing easy to read/understand dates for their end customers.

    Kudos to @JFresh21 for refusing to purchase beers that do not have an easy to understand date on them.

    If we collectively were like JFresh21 then all of the breweries would be compelled to provide consumer friendly dating.

    Cheers!
     
  12. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
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    Unfortunately, in some areas dating is ignored by almost all of the customers, all of the retailers and all of the distributors. So I can't fault the breweries too much.
     
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  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Needless to say but it is each brewery's choice here. I would hope that they would want to provide their customers (e.g., the ones who want this information) easy to read/understand packaging dates. Thank goodness for folks like @JFresh21 who respond with a non-purchase for those businesses who prefer to not be consumer friendly.

    Cheers!
     
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  14. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I wonder how many of us contacted breweries who don't provide acceptable dating or...no dating at all?

    I know that I haven't. :slight_frown:
     
  15. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    I have, at least a few. In fact I also told them which of their beers I was interested in buying and which beer from one of their competitors I bought instead because their competitor had a date and they did not.
     
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  16. TheBrewsky

    TheBrewsky Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2017 California

    I know that there are online converters, which take the Julian Date and convert it to the typical Gregorian calendar dating. The thing that really frustrates me is when the Julian Date, or any date for that matter, is sloppily printed on, or on a section of can making it unreadable.
     
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  17. rather

    rather Initiate (0) May 31, 2013 California

    Ever get a reply?
     
  18. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Cool!

    We should start a list of breweries that we know don't put any dates on their packaged beer and take it from there. As in bulk contacting those breweries. Wyoming has Black Tooth, ...
     
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  19. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    No. But it makes me feel better. :slight_smile:

    Also there was at least one case where the brewery did start dating their cases and bottles about a month later. Might have been already planned, but...
     
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  20. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Can't help much there since I don't remember any of them. I don't pay any attention (or money) to them, so....
     
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