Midwest Year-round or fall stouts

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by Stooven, Sep 23, 2022.

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  1. Stooven

    Stooven Pundit (911) May 23, 2013 Illinois

    I bought some Kalamazoo Stout today and got to thinking: why are year-round and seasonal (non-BA or imperial) stouts so rare in the Chicago MSA (so, including MKE, NW Indiana and SW Michigan)? The best ones are almost uniformly from Michigan (Kal and Expedition, Oatmeal Stout, Ohio City, and I'll count the Ed FitzG)

    Of the larger breweries, only Revolution (Eugene), Noon Whistle (Bernie), Maplewood (Pug) . . . three? What am I missing? Talking the 5%-7% range. You ask for a DDH IPA and you have one in your hand before you finish asking, but this seems a little imbalanced.
     
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  2. mmmbeerNY

    mmmbeerNY Maven (1,369) Mar 5, 2014 New York

    Non beer nerds think dark beer means heavy or strong.
     
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  3. meanmutt

    meanmutt Grand Pooh-Bah (3,883) Feb 6, 2012 Ohio
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    This is the truth. I cringe when people make comments about Guinness being "heavy"...lol
     
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  4. monstershu

    monstershu Crusader (450) Jun 10, 2020 Illinois
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    Central Water Satin Solitude is a good beer. Are we talking porters as well? Because if so, throw Edmund Fitzgerald from Great Lakes in there.
     
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  5. Hoos78

    Hoos78 Maven (1,327) Mar 3, 2015 Ohio

    New Holland The Poet. Every bit as good as it needs to be…
     
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  6. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Grand Pooh-Bah (5,247) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    Eugene is listed as a porter, which I find mostly indistinguishable with most non BA stouts. Only mentioning this because I have another porter I like, Spiteful Brewing's God Damn Pigeon Porter. Also I'm not positive if they release this every Fall or Winter, but Half Acre's Original Reaper is a nice standard stout.

    Can't necessarily answer the rarity question beyond a guess there's more gold/demand in them BA & pastry stout hills.
     
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  7. dennisthreeninefiveone

    dennisthreeninefiveone Pundit (980) Aug 11, 2020 New Jersey
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    I think the same thing is true in metro NYC. I guees the reason is that they don't sell.
     
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  8. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,966) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    I agree with your assessment. Not many year round traditional stouts made in Chicago. Most are imperial milk stout, pastry stout, ba stout, ect….

    Haymarket Defender Stout is excellent. Certainly worth a try. Half Acre has released Original Reaper every fall for the last few years, but I I’m not certain it’s being made this year. Pipeworks made an oatmeal stout last year called East Keepers
     
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  9. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Quite simply, because people prefer Barrel Aged Stouts and IPAs. If there was demand for 5-7% stouts AND they were more profitable than other beers your would see more production of them on the shelves. You could find a 5-7% non ba stout on draft at any brewpub in Chicagoland 7+ years ago. I can't remember the last time I had a non-ba stout and if I had to guess, it was probably a default Guinness at an event that didn't have craft beer.


    But then of course, people have thrown out a bunch of options for local porters and stouts still being made, so not sure your premise is correct.

    Edit: And your examples from the state of Michigan are from 1 brewery in Michigan and 1 in Ohio?
     
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