Mold in secondary fermenter

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  1. 120bpm

    120bpm Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2020

    https://imgur.com/a/mc4f6lb I think I already know the answer, but is this mold on top of my beer? This is a chocolate milk stout. I added lactose during the boil. I added cocoa nibs that were soaked in vodka to the secondary. It looked fine when I racked into the secondary 2 weeks ago. I was planning on keging today and found this. If this is mold, should I throw it out or rack from below the mold and see how the beer turns out? Thanks.
     
  2. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    I would taste it since the mold is on top. If it's ok maybe use 4 gals. Brett almost looks the same and we drink it.
     
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  3. MightyTrustKrusher

    MightyTrustKrusher Devotee (387) Nov 5, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Hard to tell from the picture, but it looks more like some kind of pellicle formation. I don't see anything "fuzzy" on it. I would assume that either brett or some sort of lactic acid producing bacteria has gotten into your beer. I do know that some kinds of "wild" Saccharomyces strains can occasionally make pellicles as well. Either way, I'd say smell it and if it doesn't smell like death then sample it.

    With all of that said, if there were to be mold on top of a beer it would not be safe to just rack from underneath. Mold can produce toxins in the beer that can be carcinogenic among other things. You don't need to actually ingest the mold itself to suffer from the effects of it.
     
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  4. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Is there a spigot on the bucket? If so, get a sample from there and taste it before deciding what's next.
     
  5. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Thats not mold. Looks more like you racked it too early and fermentation wasn't actually finished. Could just be yeast eating the sugars from the cocoa nibs. Could be Brett, but I doubt it. Def not mold though. Just rack to your keg.
     
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  6. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I was thinking this. Looks like yeast krausen / braun hefe to me, and makes me think you simply transferred to secondary early.

    @120bpm: Did you take a gravity sample and taste the sample before transfer?
     
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  7. 120bpm

    120bpm Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2020

    Thanks for all of the comments! Here are some close up shots. [​IMG]https://imgur.com/a/DUMdZ6U After doing some research based on your suggestions I think it is a pellicle formation with some yeast krausen as well. I did not take a taste or gravity sample before I transferred to the secondary. I will transfer to the keg today and take a FG and give it a taste as well.
     
  8. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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  9. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    I agree with your assessment in that it’s not just brewer’s yeast. Nice photos! Cheers!
     
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  10. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Good close up. It no longer looks like regular yeast to me.
     
  11. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    That’s a pellicle not mold. It’s got some contamination. If you are kegging and it tastes fine then finish it. If you are bottling I would toss it as to not make bottle bombs.
     
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  12. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    Right click copy image and put it in where you type. BTW a lot of brewers stopped doing secondary.
    [​IMG]
     
  13. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Now... that is Brett (or some other pellicle forming microbe).
     
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