New Beer Weekend #211

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  1. Whyteboar

    Whyteboar Grand Pooh-Bah (4,286) Jun 7, 2008 Michigan
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    Step right up ladies and gentlemen and tell us all about what you think about the new to you beer that you just drank. Or are currently drinking.
    Doesn’t have to be fancy and you don’t need to write a story, unless you are @AzfromOz and then we want a story.
    My new beer was sent to me by the wondrous @WunderLlama who slings great beer all over the country during the NBW BIF (currently at #18)
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    Poured an opaque honey color and was capped by a nearly white head which left good lacing. Most pale ale is transparent so I was a bit taken aback, and then I thought, oh, right, Tree House.
    The taste leads with the Nelson hops before the other varieties come out to play. Not so much citrus, and definitely dry: not unpleasantly so, just an observation.
    The feel is ideal for the appearance, it looks like it should be chewy but it’s light and easy quaffing.
    OA, if I drank Pale Ales on a regular basis I would want something like this, not subtle, full of flavor and easy drinking.
    Thank you Maynard!
     
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  2. GrumpyGas

    GrumpyGas Grand Pooh-Bah (4,579) Apr 7, 2009 Illinois
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    I guess I had pucker on my mind today. Sour is not a style I often have, or ever have; maybe one every other month. But today this is my second. Imperial Oak Brewing releases their foeder aged sours under the Savage Oak brand. Ruby is their Flanders red style sour and this one had currant added and was aged in bourbon barrels.

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    It looks ugly, but when backlit the clear body glows like a ruby.

    Bourbon kissed fruit aroma portends a tart and sour elixir that doesn't disappoint.

    Taste is tart cherry/currant lead and quite high on the pucker scale. Bourbon notes lean wet oak, especially due to foeder fermentation prior to aging bourbon barrels.

    Overall a very tart sour change of pace, but not a looker.
    Slaínte
     
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  3. GreenBayBA

    GreenBayBA Grand Pooh-Bah (4,265) Aug 30, 2015 Wisconsin
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    Jackie O's Pub and Brewery Iron Furnace. A barleywine-style ale brewed with brown sugar and maple syrup, aged in bourbon barrels. Courtesy of @Blogjackets. The look is pitch black, with a brown tint. There was no foam that appeared when pouring the beer into the glass. The smell is remarkable. Brown sugar and maple syrup sweetness explode from the bottle. There are also scents of raisin, leather, plum, sweet potato, and bourbon. It is a very enticing blend. The taste is incredible. Flavors jump all over your palate. Maple syrup flavor can easily be overwhelming, but in this beer it blends perfectly with sweet, yet mild flavors of caramel, raisin, leather, brown sugar, molasses, brown bread, and bourbon. It is so delightful. The mouthfeel is oily, soupy, thick, silky, and rich, with low-medium carbonation. Overall, this is an incredible barleywine-style ale. Thank you so much, @Blogjackets!
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    When is a brewery not a brewery?

    Today’s beer was gifted to me and it is an interesting beer on several levels:

    · The name of the brewery is Another Moon Brewery which I have never heard of before.

    · On the can it mentions “Conditioned in the can”.

    · Also on the can: “Brewed by Another Moon Brewing Company at Suarez Family Brewery in Livingston, NY”

    The brand’s name in smaller font on the can: “Moony’s Ale – Hoppy Saison”.

    The third bullet above is a bit ambiguous: was this beer brewed by the brewers of Suarez or did the brewer of Another Moon brew the beer using the equipment at Suarez brewery?

    I typically am not a fan of contract brewed beers since I have often times had less than stellar experiences when a brewery switches where they brew their beer (i.e., from brewing at the brewery they own/operate to some other brewery). In this particular instance I have less concern as regards contract brewing since I was impressed by the beers of Suarez which I detailed in a past thread:

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/new-beer-sunday-week-783.634783/#post-6811792

    Below is information about Moony’s Ale from the BA description for this beer:

    “This is a beer for drinking. Think farmhouse pale ale. This beer is can-conditioned so it still has all the frothy goodness you can expect from Another Moon beer - just in a can instead of a bottle. Brewed with NY state malt and NY Excelsior and a touch of NZ Motueka hops to keep things interesting. Notes of melon, kiwi, mango, and lemon. Moony's Ale: built for the trail.”

    I never heard of the Excelsior hop before and from a quick web search I learned that it is not a hop variety but a blend:

    “Excelsior hops are a testament to the rich agricultural diversity of New York, representing the first 100% New York-grown and processed hop blend. This innovative product is the result of a collaboration between the New York Hop Guild and the experts at Hoptechnic, who have meticulously selected and blended the finest hop varieties from the region.



    The flavor profile of Excelsior hops is complex and tantalizing, marked by tropical mango and lychee notes, complemented by a bouquet of floral aromas and a medley of sweet fruits. This blend is particularly suited for crafting beers where a pronounced hop character is desired, adding a layer of depth and aroma that can elevate pale ales, IPAs, and other hop-forward styles. The unique combination of flavors works harmoniously to provide a sensory experience that is both exotic and familiar, making it a versatile choice for experimental and traditional brewing alike.”

    Boy, all this typing has gotten me parched. Let’s drink!!

    Served in my Tripel Karmeliet tulip glass:

    Appearance

    Golden yellow colored with a BIG rocky white head

    Aroma

    The aroma is dominated by yeast produced esters (fruity) and phenols (spicy) but there is also some hop aromas of citrus/floral in the background.

    Taste:

    The flavor follows the nose with fruity & spicy flavors plus some citrus/floral flavors as well. There is a low – moderate bitterness.

    Mouthfeel

    High – medium carbonation level, a light- medium body with an off-dry finish.

    Overall

    This beer is very good. It is tasty and a joy to drink.

    This beer is a Saison first and hoppy second.

    Cheers!

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  5. HoppingMadMonk

    HoppingMadMonk Grand Pooh-Bah (5,208) Mar 3, 2017 New Jersey
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    Steve Austin lager
    ...very clear light amber
    ...medium carbonation with a just below average body
    ...aroma is corn,grain,cereal and malt
    ...taste is similar to aroma,very slight sweetness with not a lot of hop influence.
    ...not an overly complicated beer but thatis what seemed appealing to me. It made a good,just home from a long day and I want to crack open an uncomplicated but decent beer[​IMG]
     
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  6. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,924) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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    Hill Farmstead - Vera Mae

    750ml bottle served in a tulip. "Bottle conditioning since October 5, 2023." Handed to me by @Roguer.

    Pours clear light yellow, big head on the pour, thin dense head after settling, moderately amount of moderately slow carbonation at rest. Smell is bright lemon and floral, some spicy funk, sweet honey and bread, something vaguely fruity and a background earthiness.

    Taste is on the tart side, lemon is stronger and deeper, more on the rind side than the lemonade side. Tartness doesn't quite mask the honey, but it does cover up a lot of it. Floral stuff comes through, now something sort of chardonnay like comes through, I wonder if that was the vague fruitiness in the aroma. Earthiness comes across more clearly and woody/bitter.

    Mouthfeel is very light, very dry, very airy. Overall, this is a very nice beer.
     
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  7. HoppingMadMonk

    HoppingMadMonk Grand Pooh-Bah (5,208) Mar 3, 2017 New Jersey
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    Kcbc 4am pils
    ...gold,amber appearance with a thin but lasting head.
    ...medium carbonation with a just below average body but adds up to a nice feel.
    ...aroma is grain, cereal, very mild mixed citrus and a little flowery
    ..taste is mild sweetness, grainy,cereal with some mild citrus in the background. Some very mild dry bitter hops on the finish that linger
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  8. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    The first Maine adventure draws to a close. Hot but nice day on the lake today, sad to be packing up for the morning departure. Little guy made great strides in the kayak. We walked 4.8 miles yesterday at the Coastal Botannical Gardens - awesome place.

    I'm going to bend the rules a bit. Two new beers reviewed during the week during the week. I hope I linked them right.

    Radiant Days Papaya Tangerine Fluff from Definitive - crowler only, the missus liked it but it's basically bubbly fruit juice. Tastes good, hard to call it beer.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/51968/610463/

    Allagash Upward Movement 2024 Czech Amber Lager - brewed with black tea. I loved it and it ticks another style. The tea is well- integrated and is not at all intrusive.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4/710764/

    Of course we spent way too money at Barreled Souls and tried eight beers. The missus got her fruity sours and I stocked up some barleywines.

    Of the eight beers we tried, two deserve special mention. Maria's Garden was excellent - port-aged barleywine. But...Barleywine X - only available on tap - was absolutely divine, heavenly awesomeness. If you like Barleywines and are anywhere near Barrelled Souls I'd call it an absolute must try - it has flavors like a pecan praline but it's still true to the style - no doubt what you are drinking. Sublime, in my opinion.

    I've got more stash to get through and report on, plus the trip ain't over yet! We will be up in Liberty near Lake St. George in a week and uh-oh Barreled Souls Barleywine is Life event is happening the Saturday we return...rationalizing that it isn't that far out of the way...
     
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  9. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Grand Pooh-Bah (5,247) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    Thank you for opening @Whyteboar ! A few comments about beers tried before diving in.
    • I'll have to try to track down those Savage Bottles, especially your Flanders enjoyed today, a style hard to find beyond the usual classics.
    • I'm stashing the Jackie O's for the Fall, both seasonal and the fact I have so many Drink Fresh beers from Wisconsin.
    • Loved Suarez Family beers enjoyed this Spring at Monk's Pub. Hope we get access even for a festival at some point in Chicago.
    Was to late / lazy to hit Spiteful today, perhaps early next week when it's cooler out. May go to Une Annee tomorrow, but either way this weekend is dedicated to at least one IPA each day to extend the IPA celebration today. I wasn't aware it was International Beer Day until this evening, otherwise I may have saved my international tasting last weekend for this one.

    First up, I believe my first described WCIPA from a brewery I like across many styles.
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    Jester King West Coast IPA

    4.11/5 rDev -1%
    look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

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    Full review linked above, NBW Cliffs Notes below:
    • AP Crystal clear caramel base, light carbonation, generous white head.
    • AR Pine and grapefruit, caramel malt strong as well.
    • T More malty than expected, though perhaps 7 weeks out is the cause. Blends well with the Pine and Grapefruit.
    • M Feels stronger than the 6.4% ABV, more malty than expected, medium to full body pine caramel malt finish.
    • Overall: A solid enjoyable experience as expected, would revisit these notes if a future fresher can or draft pour yields a less malt driven more hoppy experience. That said, I am really enjoying as is.
     
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  10. beergoot

    beergoot Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,310) Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
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    TRVE Brewing Co. -- Twelve
    Cold India pale ale
    ABV: 6.5%; pouring temperature: 40 °F; canning info: 06/20/24
    Source: local purchase (Coaltrain Fine Wine, Craft Beer & Spirits)

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    3.9/5 rDev 0%
    look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

    Pours out a sharp, clear, light gold color, solid medium gold in the glass; decent carbonation; fat, thick density head, white and semi-creamy with gentle rolling hills of sculpted foam on top. Fair aroma; earthy and herbal waft; slight fruity esters. Finely balanced flavors; mild malt sense; light cereal grain and cracker; hop bitterness is subdued but balanced with the malts; suggestions of earthy green herbs like thyme and rosemary. Medium-heavy body; slight India pale ale raspiness on the palate; semi-dry feel; crisp.

    As I understand cold IPAs, this one does a pretty fair job, slipping a bit in the aroma department, but definitely bringing a balanced, nuanced lager-like quality to the taste while maintaining that certain ale-like mouthfeel.

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    ...India pale lagers never really grabbed me, but this is the second cold India pale ale that I've recently had (the other was another Denver brewery - Burns Family Artisan Ales - that rather impressed me...
     
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  11. cjgiant

    cjgiant Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,584) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    Just curious if you have similar experiences, if you’ve had cases to notice, from the other side - i.e. a “gypsy brewer” that starts brewing on their own?
     
  12. Whyteboar

    Whyteboar Grand Pooh-Bah (4,286) Jun 7, 2008 Michigan
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    Back with my nightcap, this one sent to me by @Resistance88
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    Poured stout black with a good light brown head which left reasonable lacing.
    The taste was a curious combination of porter flavor (and a really good porter too!) followed immediately by dark chocolate and black licorice and really light cinnamon. It was good but I think I would prefer a non-spiced stout as part of the cuvée.
    The feel is lightly viscous, a nod to the ABV and barrel aged nature.
    OA, I enjoyed this quite a bit, just not sure I’d want to drink a 6 pack of it.
    Thanks Thomas!
     
  13. WunderLlama

    WunderLlama Grand Pooh-Bah (4,820) Dec 27, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Cheers @Whyteboar for opening the taps on this new beer weekend

    Perrin 59-10 ale
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    3.83/5 rDev -7%
    look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

    Can received as Lif winnings from @Whyteboar in Bif18

    Chilled 12oz can poured into a pint glass

    A Traditional IPA with a modern twist. A blend of old-school and new-age hops, perfectly blended with a sweet, malty backbone. These numbers stand for the home address of the brewery, the home of liquid craftsmanship.

    Translucent copper colored liquid crowned by a fizzy one finger off white foam crown

    Aroma is tangerine citrus , malty

    Taste is sweet malts with a tangerine citrus hop finish

    Malty sweet with a crisp hop kiss on the finish

    Good beer, prosit!
     
  14. WunderLlama

    WunderLlama Grand Pooh-Bah (4,820) Dec 27, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Reviewed these two @Whyteboar beers back to back . West coast style ipas , very similar in taste, appearance and look. This beer and the brew above could be close cousins in style

    Offside IPA

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    3.77/5 rDev -1.8%
    look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
    Can received from @Whyteboar in an lif associated with bif18

    Oddside Ales original ipa

    Introducing our IPA, a harmonious blend of Simcoe, Amarillo, and Citra hops that creates a perfectly balanced and well-rounded brew. With a delightful hoppy profile, it's not excessively bitter, making it exceptionally drinkable. Savor the nuanced flavors, and let the symphony of hops dance on your palate. Cheers to a refreshing experience!

    Translucent copper colored liquid with a crackly fat one finger off off white foam

    Aroma is sweet malts, pine , orange citrus

    Taste is sweet malts, pine resin, orange citrus

    crispy malt forward beer with pine hops providing a hop bite

    Good beer
     
  15. Whyteboar

    Whyteboar Grand Pooh-Bah (4,286) Jun 7, 2008 Michigan
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    I am certain that a fair amount of brewers taste other brewers work and think that they could make it better. Or maybe the brewers at Perrin and Oddsides are indeed cousins. Who knows. I am just happy to find non hazy IPA options!
     
  16. Ozzylizard

    Ozzylizard Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,419) Oct 5, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks Jack - another insightful and interesting review!
     
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  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have not had many beers that were brewed via gypsy brewing (i.e., a brewer brewing beer at somebody else's brewery) but from memory I believe that I have enjoyed those beers.

    My issues have been with beers that I enjoyed when they were originally brewed at the brewer's location but later on they decided to have their beers brewed via contract brewing.

    Cheers!
     
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  18. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Good morning, Weekenders! Some great beers being enjoyed today already, I can see. Going to join in on the conversation soon, but first, my own contribution:

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    Tree House Threads of Time is a blended beer composed of stouts aged one, three, and five years in Heaven Hill and Buffalo Trace barrels. That's quite the pedigree! Let's see if it can live up to expectations.

    In a word: yes. But I suspect you want more words than that. :wink:

    My review has plenty of those, and I of course will link it below, so I'll give you the summary here, and if you want more on the tasting and aroma notes, feel free to check out the review.

    This is an absolutely delectable and phenomenal blend. That said, if you're going to make a highlight out of blending BA stouts from one to five years of aging, in barrels with (at least in theory) excellent pedigrees, I'm a little surprised that the bourbon influence is so subtle, at least in terms of flavor expression. It's very obviously there, and very delicious, but I would expect some more specific, identifiable tasting notes. That's a very, very minor quibble regarding what is an absolutely fantastic blended BA stout.

    So, yeah, I like it a lot. As much as the best BA stouts out there (blended or otherwise)? Hmm, well, not quite, but if it's not quite the same level of superstar as the best I've ever had, it's certainly playing in the same all star game: same tier of greatness, just not as near to perfection as the absolute best of the best.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/28743/710699/?ba=Roguer#lists
    4.61 / only review or rating (so, perfect 0.0 rDev! :stuck_out_tongue: )
     
  19. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Right to the top with this one; Barreled Souls' BA barleywines are incredible. They often blur the line between stout and BW, and I'm not complaining. My favorites from them have no additional flavorings; they're just absolutely massive barleywines aged in bourbon, and they're freaking awesome.



    Glad you liked it! I'm also glad I managed to get you some more "regular" HF farmhouse ale examples, before going right into the fancy shmancy stuff. You really get an appreciation for their craft from something ostensibly more simple like Arthur.



    @snaotheus gifted me with one of these in-person, only for me to later find out ... I've already had it! So, no new beer for me on that one, but I thought it was awesome, and now I have the opportunity to cellar it for a bit. :slight_smile:



    That sounds delightful! Jackie O's is fantastic when they're at the top of their game.



    That's certainly an interesting case. On one hand, you've got a "who the hell is this?" brewery, but on the other hand, Suarez Family is top notch. But who knows their involvement, other than perhaps lending their equipment? It sounds like it was a good beer, nonetheless!

    I have a checkered track record with contract brews. The largest brewery in CT, Two Roads, famously contract brews quite a bit, and I have to say: their output of Lawson's Sip of Sunshine is fantastic. Lawson's doesn't even brew the beer in Vermont (although you can only get the more elusive Double Sunshine up there).

    Many collaborations essentially become contract beers (in effect), as they get re-brewed over and over long after the collaboration occurred (I doubt Sixpoint's brewers are heading to SE CT every single time Beer'd cranks out some more Stay Toasty, for example, and that's not Beer'd's only regularly recurring collab). Those seem to be hit and miss, as well.

    Sometimes, it works, and sometimes, it doesn't. I think the key is probably the OG brewery maintaining strict QC standards and oversight, although the overall equipment and up-scaling are no doubt also concerns.



    Ah yes, a different case here. I've had a lot of Evil Twin over the years, kind of the classic case of a gypsy brewer. I never had a problem with quality from them, but they often brewed at Two Roads and Westbrook, which have pretty solid reputations for reliability.

    Definitely a different issue than contract brewing. I think if you get a gypsy brewer with an uneven output, you could even sell that as being part of the charm: "Hey, it's different every time!" (like Phantom). But with a contract brewer, you should expect to get the same product as you would from the main brewery. (Otherwise, what's the point?) That sometimes seems to be the case, but like you, my experiences suggest that maintaining that original quality and experience seems to be the exception, not the norm.
     
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  20. Mdog

    Mdog Pooh-Bah (2,539) Jan 7, 2004 Minnesota
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    I'm a little late to the party with this one, but still good stuff!

    Half Acre Daisy Cutter Select
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    Appearance: Clear gold, big head.

    Smell: Piney, some citrus.

    Taste: Solid pine and citrus entry, then continues with more citrus, moderate bitterness. Somewhat light feel for a DIPA. Extremely drinkable.

    Overall: Two of the best pale ale makers combine for a double IPA that drinks like a pale ale. SNPA and standard Daisy Cutter are two classics, this DIPA reminds me of both. Balanced flavor and great drinkability.
     
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