Non-Duplicate Beers Erroneously Deleted

Help Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Sabtos, May 23, 2018.

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  1. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Yesterday it appears 3 Floyds ChemTrailMix 2018 was erroneously merged with ChemTrailMix 2017. The two beers are unique and distinct from each other due to having been aged in different barrels--the differences between the two were discernible. There were a number of written reviews already on 2018, a few of which have now been lost because those users already had reviews on 2017. Is there a way to restore the deleted beers from yesterday, complete with previously submitted reviews?

    Similarly, Ronaldo 2017 seems to have been deleted and merged into a non-vintage Ronaldo that has the image and description of the 2016 version. The 2016 used Madeira barrels and the 2017 Muscat. Again, two totally different styles of wine can make a major difference in the overall experience. Will this be restored as well?

    These deletions occurred after one user added a bunch of unnecessary duplicates, including a second 2018 ChemTrailMix and another unnecessary entry for regular Dark Lord. Deletions of those duplications were obviously warranted, but whoever did the cleaning up got a little carried away and didn't compare the legitimate variant vintages before deleting those as well.

    I get that we don't want to turn this into Untappd where we add a new entry for every single batch of the same unchanged beer--I personally report a ton of unnecessary duplicates on a regular basis. But I think where the recipe or barrel changes significantly that we should maintain the new entries. Historically this has been the practice here, so I think some mistakes were made with the recent bottle releases on Dark Lord Day. Hopefully this can be resolved...
     
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  2. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    First off - nothing has been lost as of yet... Anything that was done can be undone (if warranted).

    Secondly, no one on their own decided to just randomly merge beers - in fact, everyone of those merges were reported numerous times by multiple users.

    Do you have the list of specific beers that you believe were incorrectly merged? For example, Chemtrailmix has the same description across the years (no notable recipe change) which would mean they get listed as a single beer - like BCBS even though different coffee roasts are used from year to year.
     
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  3. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Yes, sure thing. There were only two vintages of ChemTrailMix and three of Ronaldo. Note the barrel variations.
    • Ronaldo (2017) - Dark Lord aged in Muscat barrels with tart Michigan cherries [this was merged away]
    • Ronaldo (2016) - Dark Lord aged in barrels soaked in Madeira, a fortified Portuguese wine, with tart Michigan cherries [this is the one at https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/26/225936/]
    • Ronaldo (2011) - Moloko milk stout aged in a Portuguese port barrel for one year with tart and sweet cherries. [located here https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/26/72123/]
    • ChemTrailMix (2018) - Dark Lord aged in rye barrels with cinnamon and pink peppercorns [this was merged away]
    • ChemTrailMix (2017) - Dark Lord aged in bourbon barrels with cinnamon and pink peppercorns [the image is the correct 2017 wax located here https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/26/281697/, but the description is incorrect, which should be for the 2018]

    @Luscious_Malfoy & @eppie82 if you guys remember any others that may have been removed please let us know.
     
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  4. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I believe these have all since been cleaned up.
     
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  5. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Very nice, very much appreciated. I'd give you a pour if you were closer! :beers:
     
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