Pint Can IPA pricing

Discussion in 'Pacific' started by alj0217, Oct 19, 2016.

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  1. alj0217

    alj0217 Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2014 California

    Seems like a fair number of CA breweries are releasing IPA pint cans to the tune of $18-20 a 4-pack...

    Does anyone have a sense for profit margin here? I could imagine ingredients for these big, hazy, heavily hopped beers being expensive but I could also see this as cashing in on the trend set by East Coast establishments... thoughts?
     
  2. dcbullet

    dcbullet Initiate (0) Dec 18, 2013 California

    My thoughts are that businesses will charge what they can for their product and if you don't like the price, don't buy it.

    Do you try to get as much pay as you can for your work? I sure do.
     
  3. bpwb4123

    bpwb4123 Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2016 California

    Not sure about the profit margin, but I know Track 7 in Sacramento is pushing 4 packs of hazy IPAs in the $14-16 range with new releases almost every week. Trend or not, you won't catch me complaining
     
  4. rrrobotRock

    rrrobotRock Initiate (0) May 8, 2016 New York

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  5. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2009 California
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    Great post with raw information. Much more useful than the expected championing of capitalist economics.
     
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  6. PG2G

    PG2G Initiate (0) Dec 26, 2011 California

    I had heard the profit margins at Monkish weren't so high. I wonder how much the mobile canning line eats into it
     
  7. ryno09

    ryno09 Pundit (835) May 1, 2010 California

    This is why you stick with Pizza Port six packs.
     
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  8. Javii

    Javii Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2010 California

    The LA canned releases (Mumford, Monkish, HPB) that I see around the $18-20 range are the DIPA/TIPAs. Aren't these better prices or around the same than your DIPA/TIPA bombers that most breweries release anyway? Greenshift, Hop Plunge, Hammerland are all around the $10 range.
     
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  9. Saxmusik45

    Saxmusik45 Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2011 California

    This would no longer be a factor as they invested in their own canning line. If the mobile canning rates were so high, a price drop would have been expected, but why drop the price when they can still charge it and sell?
     
  10. SpauldingSmails

    SpauldingSmails Zealot (602) Sep 11, 2014 Massachusetts

    These breweries are investing a lot of dough to have the level of production that we are demanding. The raw ingredients alone (I'm guessing that quality hop producers are not missing out on the trend) make the pricing comparison between a shelf stable beer and the drink-me-now beers tricky. What also should be considered is whether anyone here wants to guarantee that our palates won't change, meaning that at some point those folks chasing hazy juice (me) won't revert back to preferring something else down the road. (It wasn't that long ago when I used to go bat shit crazy for Pliny the Elder.) In that case, these breweries need to make decent profits while they are able - both to pay down what it cost to build as well as make a profit off of their craft near term. They also have to make room for mistakes, bad batches and unpopular releases. The way that I think about it is that we are still a long way from the wine business, where the rare wines are $1,000s more than their peers.

    With all that said, I don't actually care what it costs to make the beer as a component of what they charge. The ability to make one of these great IPA's is not universal and should command a premium. Frankly, while it is broader than it once was, the Monkish/Trillium breweries are, IMHO, very far ahead of even the above average brewery.
     
  11. SDPirate

    SDPirate Initiate (0) Sep 29, 2015 California

    So much this. I really like that I can just buy a single can of Kook, Graveyard, or Swami's for like $2.50 or less. Also, MT Booming Rollers when it comes around that time.
     
  12. pavsci2003

    pavsci2003 Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2015 California

    If you're willing to spend $4-5 dollars for a 16oz pour at a brewery, then there is no reason you should complain about paying the same price for properly canned 4pack of the same IPA. I have issues with certain breweries pre-filling crowlers at $12+ and marketing it on social media as a can release...
     
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  13. homer281

    homer281 Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2013 California

    I'd love to if I could ever find a 6-pack that's less than 2 months old.
     
  14. pavsci2003

    pavsci2003 Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2015 California

    I don't think graveyard has been out for 2 months yet...

    it's unfornate that swami's sits on shelves a little too long and doesn't get much turnover. that said they just did a third canning run of graveyard, so look for it super fresh soon.
     
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  15. homer281

    homer281 Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2013 California

    Swami's and Kook's are the main ones I was referring to, I've found each of them fresh one-time (less than a week) but beyond that it's been pretty much 6 weeks old minimum.

    I was disappointed to even find this to be the case at Pizza Port San Clemente's fridge.
     
  16. whiskey

    whiskey Maven (1,308) Feb 25, 2012 California
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    No, no. Don't even mention it!

    Brewers have the right to try to get as much for their beer as possible...as consumers we're allowed to try to pay as little as possible for a product to keep our hard earned money in our pockets. Why the stigma of "then you can't afford it" or "they're trying to make a living too" is always applied to these topics is a mystery to me.
     
  17. whiskey

    whiskey Maven (1,308) Feb 25, 2012 California
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    I get them fresh at Mr. Kegs fairly regularly...and they aren't known to move a ton of product.
     
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  18. IKR

    IKR Maven (1,490) May 25, 2010 California
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    Firestone Walker Luponic Distortion is under $10 for a six pack of cans. Decent enough IPA where I'll let those $18-$20 4 packs continue to gather dust or let someone else pay the high cost.:wink:
     
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  19. Zhiguli

    Zhiguli Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2012 California

    America. Whatever the market will bear is the rule.

    YOU (and i), the BA's are probably the pinnacle of hype propagation so let's start with our own influence on this matter.
     
  20. FinnishFox

    FinnishFox Zealot (616) Sep 28, 2016 California
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    No more expensive (and often $1-2 less expensive) than Trillium.

    But Trillium (and Monkish) occupy more expensive real estate than most breweries.
     
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