Porter brew

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Hogue2112, Apr 8, 2016.

Tags:
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio


    Thanks for the tips!

    That being said, there was a lot going on up there in the comments.

    Is this ingredient list all I'd need?

    I have a yeast cake that I could use from this stone pale ale, put into second fermentation last night. brew day is tomorrow. - its WLP007 though. Could be fun :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  2. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Thats all you'll need. Just steep grains at 155. Use your usual boil procedure. Chill to 65. Pitch and let it set, probably 3 weeks because of the gravity.
     
    Hogue2112 likes this.
  3. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    I agree with everything that has been written above, mostly because everyone is smarter and more experienced than I am, but I'll add comments in BOLD to some of the items in your instruction list for clarification because kit instructions are typically very vague or downright wrong.

    Steep grains at 155 for 60 minutes. - I've never seen a steeping time of 60 minutes. Most of mine are 20 or 30 minutes. The 60 minutes may be a reflection of the wrong use of the 'mash' word in the next step because mashing typically lasts that long. If you have the time, go with the 60, but 30 minutes should be okay.
    •Mash out at 170 degrees for 15 minutes. - I suspect what they were trying to say here is just wash your grains to get that last little bit of flavor. To answer one of your questions above, I steep in my boil pot and remove the bag and rinse it when the time is done. I always have my water that I add for the boil at a pre-heated temp of 150-170, and I simply dunk the grain bag a few times to wash the grains. Then add the water to the boil kettle.
    •Pull grain, pour wort in to pot and bring to boil for 15 minutes.
    •Remove from heat and add Briess CBW Porter and Amber DME. - watch out for a boil-over right after you get back to a boil here.
    •After boil resumes add 1 oz of Perle and hold for 45 minutes. - strange wording... I don't know why they say to 'hold' for 15 minutes. Just time the boil for 15 minutes before the next addition (which is probably what they are trying to say).
    •Add 1 oz of Fuggle and ¼ tsp of Irish Moss and hold for 15 minutes. - again, just time the boil until the next addition.
    •Remove pot from heat and add small jar of honey. - stir to mix this honey because it's sitting on the bottom and could scorch when you start the heat again.
    •To cool wort add 3 gallons of ice water (just starting to freeze) to carboy.
    •Add hot wort to carboy through a strainer. - I hope the wort is below 100 degrees by then or you stand a chance of cracking your carboy if it is glass. Use a funnel and strainer for this transfer so that the wort will get better aerated. Your yeast will like you for that, especially because this is a high gravity beer.
    •Add 1 more gallon of cold water to carboy to make 5 gallons total.
    •Temp of wort should be ~75 degrees. - temp should be 65-68 when adding the yeast and where your fermenter will be sitting, and your hydrometer reading in the next step will be more accurate when the temp is closer to 60.
    •Take original specific gravity reading - be sure to take notes throughout the brewing process, including writing this reading down.
    •Pour Burton Ale yeast in to wort
    •Place stopper and air lock on to fermenter. - since this is a high gravity beer, I'd attach a blow-off tube rather than just a simple airlock.
    •After ~5days or initial fermentation has subsided rack to secondary. - skip the secondary. Just let it ferment completely in the primary until it's done. Racking to a secondary is just adding the needless possibility of adding oxygen to your new beer.
    •After 7-10 days in secondary take final gravity reading and - take two readings over several days after you think fermentation is done. If these readings match each other, and if the readings are close to what your recipe specifies, go ahead and bottle or keg the beer. A few extra days to allow the yeast to clean up behind themselves is always a good think to do, so you are probably around two weeks (or longer since the beer is high gravity) since brew day by the time you package the beer.
    •Rack to bottling carboy if ready. - The preceding comment defines the 'if ready' part.

    Enjoy your brewing session!
     
    Hogue2112 likes this.
  4. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    Thanks for all the details!!!
     
  5. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    Alright!

    Brew day was a late Friday night endeavor. If this turns out well may have to name it third shift or something witty...

    Everything went as expected, had a super slight boil over after adding the last bit of DME. Weird thing was that it happened about 1 minute after stiring, and in the amount of time it took to turn around and grab a new beer... Anyways, adddd some extra light and the honey addition at flameout should be adequate enough.

    1.078 was achieved after cool down. So DAMN.

    We went with the grains and DME in the original post (including the honey. Despite bringing up the concern with that malt not being steepable, etc. LHBS guy said it would.), and Sparkling Amber LME.

    Pitched two packs of yeast, didn't make a starter, and absolutely should have. Next time...

    Hopefully she is bubbling away enjoying all of that glorious sugar!

    Cheers! Thanks for the help!
     
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah

  7. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    Update!!!!

    Got a text from my brew buddy. "Our beer exploded."

    Lid blew 3/4 of the way off, leaked everywhere.
     
  8. pittvkyle7

    pittvkyle7 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2007 Connecticut

    Oh no! Hopefully you didn't loose too much. Blow off tube next time. Or a larger fermenter.
     
    PapaGoose03 likes this.
  9. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    Well the concern whether you should have made a starter is now a non-question. You probably still want to add a blow-off tube to protect against this happening again once you put that lid back on the bucket. If you haven't used a blow-off tube before you can google it and see what works best with your set-up. YouTube also has some videos.
     
  10. Travisurfin247

    Travisurfin247 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2010 South Carolina

    That sounds like Burton Ale yeast! Luckily my porter was contained in a Cool Brewing cooler bag when the bucket lid blew off a few years ago. I use a blowoff tube for all primary fermentations now.
     
  11. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    Yeah, obviously didn't need one! Or could have gotten away with a pack of yeast and a 3-4 day starter.

    I think it's salvaged, brew friend passed along pics and info. Made a pseudo blow off into a erlynmyer to do some light collecting for science. Filling up quick he says.

    Hopefully it didn't spoil the brew!

    This being said, do you guys ferment your primary in glass carboys? Been seeing it everywhere, and totally looks cool. How do you aerate before pitching? Or do you do it after?

    Do you buy one of those fancy toppers with the two plugs on it? Anyone have a link to something?
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah

  13. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I ferment in the 6.5 gallon ale pale. If I were looking to buy again, I would go with the 7.9 gallon fermenting bucket @JackHorzempa references above since I have had blowouts in the past. I have a 6 gallon glass carboy that I use for wine and pretty much never use for beer. Glass has it's lovers on this site, but to me the negatives far outweigh the positives when compared to plastic buckets.
     
    JackHorzempa likes this.
  14. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    Kellyst,

    Could you explain some of the negatives for the Glass?

    Thanks!
     
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah

    A potential consequence of a glass carboy breaking:

    [​IMG]
     
    Hogue2112 and scottakelly like this.
  16. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Harder to clean, heavier, slick when wet, potential physical harm if it breaks
     
    Hogue2112 and JackHorzempa like this.
  17. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    That cut looks pretty rough up above... Definitely proper footwear should be worn I guess!

    They do look harder to clean. I also imagine it's harder to aerate. Short of bear hugging it and shaking the living hell out of it then pitching.

    Will have to weigh the pros and cons. Next on the buy list I think is a larger brew pot. Had a really tall boil this last batch and 5.5 gallons was the yield. If this was a hoppy beer we would have totally had a boil over.

    Kellyst - Also notice that you are in Ohio. Happen to be near the Columbus area?
     
  18. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Never bear hug a glass fermenter. Ever. Unless you want to risk death.

    If you choose glass, aerate with pure O2 and a 5 micron stone.

    Buckets make good beer.
     
    scottakelly and Hogue2112 like this.
  19. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    North of Dayton. Historical no-man's land for good beer, hence the homebrew hobby
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.