Possible Bad Trader: maxchio

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  1. jmlhd7

    jmlhd7 Zealot (682) Dec 22, 2014 Missouri
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    I sent out a pretty big box (6 bottle shipper with 3 side project bottles, including two fruited ferms) in a deal that was supposed to bring me back 2 x VRs plus some reg BCS. Received my box on Friday, and it had nothing we agreed on (no VRs or BCS), just two bottles of Double Shot and 5 random cans. Tried messaging the guy on here, and it says he hasn't logged in for a week, and I tried texting the number on the fedex label and have had no response. Should I give him a chance to log on, or am I probably just hosed at this point?
     
  2. South2NW

    South2NW Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2013 Oregon

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  3. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    It sounds like he mixed up the boxes.
    My guess is he is hearing from you and someone else. Give him a couple of days to get back to you.
     
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  4. tommyz

    tommyz Initiate (0) May 28, 2007 Michigan

    If he is hearing from people and not bothering to answer back, that is a problem....I personally have no tolerance for non communication..To completely Ignore someone is not cool, especially KNOWING op does not have the right box or intentionally screwing him (not saying he is yet).. If the trade was set up here, and he has followed the rules and tried to communicate with him and getting ignored, well, its time for a "Possible" Bad Trader thread...Maybe im wrong though, but he is Ignoring messages and not showing up here.... @F2brewers am I being overly zealous?
     
  5. F2brewers

    F2brewers Maven (1,432) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
    Society Trader

    a bit i think...but OP should be getting phone #/email of his trrade partner too so they can connect outsid BA if necessary.

    if he doesn't log in for 2-3 weeks, maybe it's a different story.

    @jmlhd7 did you use the trade feedback system here? if so, contact one of the mods and we ll see what we can do to help.
     
  6. jmlhd7

    jmlhd7 Zealot (682) Dec 22, 2014 Missouri
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    @F2brewers I did use the trade feedback system. I just messaged you to fill you in on the details.
     
  7. Abbbp

    Abbbp Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 9, 2013 Texas
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    Man Joey, I feel for ya in this one. The good in me wants to say this clearly a case of wrong brew being sent to the wrong person. However, as @tommyz mentioned, NO communication through text and BA is not a promising sign. Hopefully life got in the way and he's busy, but I gotta ask, did you not get his phone number prior to trading?
     
  8. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Anything is possible as we have seen in past bad trader threads, but would seem awfully bizarre for the trader in question to purposely ship you a box of completely different beers. Hopefully he just made a mistake. But the wrong box, shaky communication could be symptoms of someone who is less than reliable.
     
  9. jmlhd7

    jmlhd7 Zealot (682) Dec 22, 2014 Missouri
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    @Abbbp No, I didn't get his number. I figured since he was on here with 21 trades and good feedback, I was fine. I've also done plenty of trade without gettings numbers in the past. Maybe I'm just too trusting.

    @jrnyc Yeah, my thought is if he was gonna screw me over, why send anything at all? But it has been weird that he hasn't logged in since he last sent me tracking info :-/
     
  10. Abbbp

    Abbbp Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 9, 2013 Texas
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    Agreed, normally 21+ trades is trustworthy, but in my experience, no trader is worthy of shipment without getting his number first. If not for any reason, just to communicate faster about shipment and arrival. Furthermore, for me, EVERYTIME I make a label there's a spot that asks for the receiver's phone number, so naturally it's (as well as his email as I attach an email notification of shipment and delivery as well) some thing I ask for. Going forward, it's a must man, just gotta do it... Hope this works out favorably, because God knows you've got the Side Project to trade, and burning that bridge is certainly something I would've never done.
     
  11. tommyz

    tommyz Initiate (0) May 28, 2007 Michigan

    Have you reached out to his previous trade partners to get a phone number incase the one on the package is incorrect? They may also have an email you can reach him at...Hoping for this to end well..
     
  12. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    I was all for giving the guy the benefit of the doubt. But today is a week. If he really mixed up boxes than he has had 2 people trying to contact him for a week.
    I think it is time this gets moved to the Bad Trader thread.
     
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  13. jmlhd7

    jmlhd7 Zealot (682) Dec 22, 2014 Missouri
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    I've reached out to previous traders, and did get a cell number, which is the one I had from the label. No responses yet. Both previous traders did have good things to say about their experience with him fwiw (not much help to me though currently). I'm not liking my chances of a good outcome here :slight_frown:
     
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  14. 4truth

    4truth Pundit (806) Jan 30, 2015 Illinois
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    So who is it?
     
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  15. tommyz

    tommyz Initiate (0) May 28, 2007 Michigan

    So, he has the right number, and is ignoring the messages...Sorry, imo, this is the start of a possible bad trader..Let me guess the excuse.."My phone broke"...This needs to be moved to a bad trader thread and guy called out..JMO
     
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  16. CHSASVbeer

    CHSASVbeer Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2014 South Carolina

    DAMN duder, that sux! If I had a VR, I'd send it to you. I'll gladly shoot you a few BCBS. Still holding out hope on this cat?
     
  17. maximum12

    maximum12 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,686) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    "When to report a bad trader"

    The answer: now. You're not doing yourself or the trading community any favors by withholding this person's handle at this point. We're close to two weeks if my math is right, & for someone who's gone radio silent both via the site & phone, time to put them on blast. It's amazing how often things get "made right" after this happens.
     
  18. jmlhd7

    jmlhd7 Zealot (682) Dec 22, 2014 Missouri
    Trader

    Well, update in this situation. I received a call today from the cell number this guy had on his label and that I had been texting. I answer the phone, and as soon as I say 'hello', he hangs up. Try calling the guy back and it appears he has blocked my number. Any hope I had that this would turn out alright is gone now :slight_frown:
     
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  19. 4truth

    4truth Pundit (806) Jan 30, 2015 Illinois
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    Please name this douche so at the very least I can put him on my DNT list. I think others here will want to do the same.
     
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  20. F2brewers

    F2brewers Maven (1,432) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
    Society Trader

    I know we've spoken about this offline, but time to out him publicly.

    He hasn't been on in over a week.

    @maxchio what's the story?
     
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