SIPA recipe ideas

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  1. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Hoping I could get some advice on a SIPA recipe. Something in line with the below examples would be perfect.
    I like these bright yellow, murky beers that burst with citrus (grapefruit rind/lemon).

    So far I am here with research:

    Land Speed Record - Pale Ale hopped w/ Grungeist, Huell Melon & Citra - 4.5% ABV

    Intensly aromtic and flavorful from a blend of US & German hops, this pale ale is brewed with 50% wheat malt from Valley Malt in Hadley MA.

    Dog & Pony Show - Pils and wheat malt (not sure of ratio) and 100% Citra

    Billy 18-Watt - not sure on this malt bill but in an interview with brewer Rich Buceta he pretty much says 18-Watt is Citra. Not sure if it's 100% though.

    I'm leaning 50/50 pils and wheat malt and a heavy Citra dose. I think it'd be nice to have 1 or 2 more hops involved. I think I can get my hands on Huell Melon but not sure I'll be able to pick up this new Grungeist hop. Anyone have hop amounts and schedule advice? With a 4.5%-5.0% IPA/PA would you dose more hops to try to make up for the lack of alcohol or would that overwhelm the light malt bill? The three beers above amaze me with their low level of alcohol but burst of hoppy flavor with almost no piney bitterness.

    Yeast too...I've only used London III so far and I like it but not sure what these beers use. I definitely want a turbid/murky beer.

    For 5gallons
    Malt
    4.5# Pils
    4.5# Wheat

    Hops @10min
    Citra 1oz
    Huell Melon 1oz
    Grungeist 1oz

    Flame out hops
    Citra 1.5oz
    Huell Melon 1oz
    Grungeist 1oz

    Dry Hop
    Citra 3oz
    Huell Melon 2oz
    Grungeist 2oz

    Yeast
    London III?

    Would love to hear ideas! Thanks!
     
  2. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Please don't tell me that the "S" is for "Southern" in your 'style' name. We don't need another regional IPA. :wink::grinning:
     
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  3. epk

    epk Pundit (849) Jun 10, 2008 New Jersey

    I'm thinking "Session". Thank god.

    I'm not familiar with your reference beers, but this description you give reminds of a NEIPA. Maybe look there for inspiration.

    Personally I don't think you need to add anymore variety with the hops. I prefer to keep it simple, three would probably be my max.

    I recently hopbursted a PA similar to this recipe -- https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/citra-pale-ale-ag.182086/
     
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  4. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    Pretty sure SIPA stands for the Securities Investor Protection Act of 1970. It is known for protecting investors in the case of a broker-dealer's failure, helping to resolve the paperwork crisis, and providing firm, juicy hoppiness at a pleasingly low gravity. However, some people say it is just a glorified pale ale.

    Here are a couple of Mad Fermentationist recipes: Micro-IPA with Nelson Sauvin, Vienna Malt Session IPA. There are links to the tasting notes at the bottom of each post.

    [Edited to add: I'm not sure why the formatting of my post is weird, I don't think I did anything unusual.]
     
  5. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Jokers. Yeah, "S" for "Session" IPA. But two of them are labeled as Pale Ales so I dunno. Maybe I should say "APA" or "hoppy pale ale".

    @epk , Yes, I bet these can be under the NEIPA umbrella. Just feel like they're a bit different than the typical Tree House/Trillium beers in that they're lower in alcohol and have a sharper bite to them but WITHOUT the pine. Never liked the pine! The bite is a citrus/grapefruit bite with a nice acidity to them. Julius (what I consider kind of the flagship NEIPA maybe) is "round" and "soft" with very low acidity. Also, I don't think I'm going to use any honey malt and I think NEIPAs tend to use a tiny bit.

    I used @VikeMan 's Averagely Perfect NEIPA recipe's hop schedule as a base for what I put above but then I know the Citra PA recipe in the forums uses way less hops than what I have above. Not sure if I'd be overdoing it or not. I'm pretty sure @invertalon would have no problem with me throwing even higher amounts of hops. :wink:

    That and I'm not sure on yeast. I put London III only b/c that's the only one I've used for IPAs and I liked it. Though, I am looking for a sharp and citrusy beer (no pine).
     
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  6. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Moar flameout hops added in steps as temps reduce.
     
  7. thebriansmaude

    thebriansmaude Crusader (472) Dec 16, 2016 Canada (AB)
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    The SIPA (Southern) is typically brewed with a heavy dose of corn grits and heavily dry hopped with southern cross and cotton balls....... srry. :wink:
     
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  8. plaztikjezuz

    plaztikjezuz Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2004 Michigan

    Best respects the Michigan IPA... lol.
     
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  9. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Visited Notch (Salem, MA) Monday and they're telling me that Land Speed Record uses Vermont yeast. I've used London III a few times so I'm going to see if I can get some Vermont yeast for this. Still wrestling with the hops. I don't think I can get Grungeist so I'm thinking of upping the Citra and Hull Melon and keeping it at 2 varieties.

    I want to keep the grist at 50% wheat but I'm thinking of dropping the pils malt just a bit to make room for something "cara"/"dextrin malt"? to add body as this'll be a weak abv batch. Any suggestions? Thanks again!
     
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