Vanilla IPA / DIPA / Pale Ale thoughts?

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  1. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    Has anyone brewed a hoppy beer in the pale ale family and added vanilla bean to it before (or tried any excellent ones)? I wonder if this is a flavor combination that would work, and, if so, what hops would you suggest using?

    I saw this previous thread, but it's largely not helpful: http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/vanilla-pale-ale-critique.32796/

    BTW, I started thinking about this because I have some vanilla bean left over from infusing my vodka with vanilla bean, and it's still got plenty of vanilla flavor, so I thought I might add it this weekend if I decide to brew. Better than to let it go to waste!
     
  2. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    Dose a glass with your preferred amount of vanilla extract, pour your favorite pale ale on top of it, and go from there. I guess there would be hop combination that could work. But it could also be 1 month, 6 gallons, and a day wasted.
     
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  3. BrettHead

    BrettHead Initiate (0) Sep 18, 2010 Nebraska

    Their is a local brewery that does a vanilla bean blonde that doesn't even taste like beer, it tastes like cream soda (not my thing but super popular with some people). Anyway, not hoppy but somewhat similar of an idea.
     
  4. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    Not a fan of vanilla in light colored beers. Its obviously done well in stouts and in pumpkin beers where it can be hidden with other flavors, but in a pale ale or lighter beer, I think it dominates the flavor too much no matter. It doesnt blend as well with hops as it does other beer flavorings like nibs and spices. Almost every vanilla ale I've tried just taste like a vanilla bomb and I end up pouring it out.
     
  5. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    My immediate reaction is that it wouldn't work well flavor wise. That aside, if you insist on going the hoppy route I'd probably assume using grassy and/or noble hops would potentially be better than citrusy ones.
     
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  6. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Black IPA might be the ticket if it has to be hoppy and have vanilla.
     
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  7. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    That's an interesting idea. Is it safe to assume you are suggesting a black ipa with moderate roast flavor rather than one with minimal roast flavor?
     
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  8. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    Dogfish Head's Burton Baton is the first thing that comes to my mind. It's sold as an Oak-aged Double IPA - so there's no vanilla flavoring, and it's not overtly hoppy either, but there's definitely some vanilla that comes through. It's a personal favorite of mine, especially with a year on it.

    If I were to try a more American IPA with vanilla (which I probably wouldn't), I'd stay clear of citrusy hops, maybe with the exception of Amarillo (creamsicle, anybody?). I'd go for hops that are described as piney, woody, earthy, etc. Chinook, Fuggles, Tahoma...

    The black IPA is a solid idea, but it's a style I just can't get on board with, so I can only support it in theory. In practice...none for me thanks. Unless you were to make it really black and hoppy (read: Imperial/Stout); in which case, I think you could have an excellent IPA on your hands.
     
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  9. bushycook

    bushycook Zealot (681) Jan 31, 2011 Virginia

    Doesn't sound like anything I could have more than a small sample of. It might be interesting to try though.
     
  10. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    I see no reason not to try it, I love the combination of citrus and vanilla!! I'd use the most citric hops you can find, and aim for the vanilla to be a background note. We were using a grapefruit-vanilla confit on cheeseboards at work over the winter, and it was dope.
     
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