Warm bier.

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  1. hottenot

    hottenot Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2018 North Carolina

    I am sure a lot of you have noticed that there many beers that improve with a little warming.

    I am of the opinion that if you find a beer at 50F that tastes better than at 36F then you have a good beer on hand.

    The Malt especially tastes richer.

    Surprising that O'Shea's Irish Stout passes this test.
    The Mason Jar Lager Happy Place also passes.

    I have many more that improve with a little warming including Yuengling Lager.

    AB AAL products never do though.

    Do you have any examples?
     
  2. Shanex

    Shanex Grand Pooh-Bah (4,960) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    Chimay Grande Réserve, Rochefort 10, St Bernardus abt 12, most big Stouts.

    Basically many strong beer (over 10% ABV) only gets better and unveil their flavors as they warm to room temps. It’s even quite recommended by your local beer store clerk/manager to do so.
     
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  3. Mister_Faucher

    Mister_Faucher Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Washington

    I concur with Shanex, most every stout (Imperial, barrel aged or otherwise) taste vastly better once they hit about 55-60F.
     
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  4. IceAce

    IceAce Pooh-Bah (2,274) Jan 8, 2004 California
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    Not really much of a surprise here. As a general rule, most beer tastes best between 10* below its fermentation temperature and the actual fermentation temperature.

    Since Ales typically ferment between 68-72*, they naturally taste better when warmer than their Lager cousins which ferment between 45-55*. Most Lagers are designed for pure refreshment while Ales lean more toward “sip & savor”.

    This equates very nicely with their counterparts in the wine world where Ale=Red and White=Lager. Most white wine deserves cooler serving temperatures while red wine flourishes at much warmer temperatures in the glass.

    Note: These are not meant to be hard and fast rules about each category, but serve as a nice general guide.
     
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  5. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Ugh, I really like my beer colder than most, but it works for my preferable styles too. I’m not all that adventurous, but I like what little Belgians I’ve had at around 50, same with big stouts. Everything else at 35 is about right, Pils, Ipas, AALs and such.
     
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  6. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Never understood the opinion that "macro" beer should be consumed near freezing* coupled with the complaint that they're flavorless.
    Well, yeah, 'cause you're drinking them too cold.
    And that's not only my opinion.
    [​IMG]

    * Which seldom was the recommendation of the brewers themselves, with a few obvious exceptions, but it likely those brewers are just following the preferences of their customers.
     
  7. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Why? It's brewed by accomplished brewer Seamus O'Hara at his Carlow Brewing in the Irish city of the same name -- it's the same beer as O'Hara's Irish Stout re-labeled for Aldi. Did you let the retailer fool you into thinking it was some inferior brew? :wink:

    "In an interview with Seamus O'Hara, founder of Carlow Brewing, back in the late 90s I asked him why he wanted to start another Stout brewery in the shadow of Guinness Brewing. "I wanted to drink beer as I remembered it from my youth." I can only hope this beer (and O'Hara's Stout) have matched his memories because this is a terrific Irish Stout that stands alone among Guinness, Murphy's, and Beamish. You may compare Guinness' Extra Stout, but there's something bigger in the roasted barley flavor they produce at Carlow. I'm getting more of this when I see it."
     
  8. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I drink pretty much everything on the warmer side except AALs.
     
  9. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    If you want to be able to taste some of the most popular flavors that go into imperial stouts or any other beer style - coffee, chocolate and maple mostly come to mind - you have to let that beer warm up to maximize those flavors. Hot peppers in any beer are just the opposite for me. I don't like that heat or flavor and will drink a beer reasonably cold to minimize those characteristics.
     
  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    I know this is gonna sound absolutely crazy to "tickerati" * out there, but, you know, why not just not buy those beers?

    (* Hey, did I just coin a new term? :smiley: Prolly not, huh?)
     
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  11. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I can't not not buy those beers if they are gifted to me. I'll drink them if they're free, rarely buy them if they're not not free. :wink:
     
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  12. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Doesn't matter what temperature you drink this beer at, https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23/65230/

    The heat is on!!
     
  13. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Why, oh why, do I put my dark beers in the fridge to get ice cold, then take them out, pour them and then let them warm to near-room-temperature before drinking them? The madness! :rolling_eyes:
     
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  14. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Hmmm.....Wait. Is that from Confucius? :grin:
     
  15. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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  16. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Maybe, maybe not. :grin:
     
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  17. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    Yes, I drink all my stouts and barleywines at cellar temp. Between 55-60. When beer is cold it hides flavor.
     
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  18. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    Central Waters Brewer's Reserve Rum Barrel Coconut Porter. Fresh out of the fridge, this was a boozy mishmash. I tried it again after letting it sit out for an hour or so, and the transformation was astounding. It had become rich and decadent, with the chocolate, coconut, and rum all working together. It was like a rum-filled Mounds bar. And that, my friends, is a good thing. :slight_smile:
     
  19. LocalBeerGuy

    LocalBeerGuy Zealot (635) Apr 17, 2018 Canada (SK)

    I never really drink my warm but I always most of time I drink it cold and at times I have had my beer warm at times once or twice in life.
     
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  20. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2017 California

    My father still says how strange it is that "The Germans drink their beer warm"
     
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