Wolves & People

Wait, what? I get that the JK's brewer was supposed to be heavily involved but fit Christ's sake, we already have two answers to Jester King. One is arguably the best farmhouse brewery in the country, and the other's regular beers are on par with the easily available JK beers I've had.

 

This isn't about Great Notion, is it?

 

Yep... Not so funny. I've got two glasses and a sticker...

 

Having tried some of their beers, I'm not too disappointed. I liked first three W&P beers I had more than the first three de Garde beers I had 3 years ago and now de Garde is one of my favorite breweries. I can see people being frustrated about the amount of time it's taking but I guess that's just not as much of a big deal for me

 

This has gotta hurt. I have no idea how they can get away without being more forthcoming with details.

 

One of the reasons I was happy to sign up to the interest list for Alesong Brewing (another new brewery looking for some buzz before releasing any beer) was that Alesong didn't give off any of the FOMO-inducing vibe of Wolves & People.

Also, Alesong didn't ask me to give them a bunch of money up front, so there's that.

(Alesong thread, for reference: http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/alesong-thread.404801/ )

 

Breweries that brew wild ales never give a specific date as to when their beers will be ready. They're ready when they're ready. Nothing more to announce until their first batches are ready and the opening of the tasting room. It's not like they're brewing IPAs, pales, ambers....

It's actually amazing that they're as far long as they are considering how long it's taking breweries to open in urban locations with existing public utilities versus a farm barn with no sewer or water.

 

Still doesn't lessen the fact that they've had an interest free loan from members without a single beer out for what... almost a year now? Just seems shady to me, but to each their own.

 

You have no clue what you're taking about. They just got their license this past December.

 

Yes but they've had the crowdfunding $$$ for how long? As I said, to each their own.

 

But they've had your money for how long?

Edit: Not necessarily your money, but the money from the crowdfunding effort. Which was collected in December of 2014.

 

From: https://crowdbrewed.com/rewards/wolves
"All funds will be collected on December 5, 2014"

That's a pretty sweet deal for a brewery lol

 

Of course it's a sweet deal. That's entirely the point, right? It's an alternative to high-interest debt financing. Clearly it works, because many breweries don't have an issue raising this capital. It's not like everyone didn't recognize this going in. 16 months feels like a long time, but given their status in December of 2014 (no license, just a fricking barn that needed renovations galore), how on earth is anyone surprised by this?

 

It just seems a bit much tbh. I can think of two breweries that have offered memberships before they had licensing, yet well after W&P, and both are up, running, and have released their first member beers. Of course, you are correct, they weren't in a barn.

 

So it took longer than everyone anticipated. What were they supposed to do? Refund all the money and say hell with it. I hate to break this to you, but life isn't always perfect. They're still going to get what was promised to them. It seems like most of the people bitching about this aren't even the people who paid.

 

I could be wrong, but I don't think this was the case. The only times I recall them saying they would have beers available were the truffle fest dinner thing and the recent members event, both of which they came through on.

 

Once again, you can't brew beer until you're legally allowed to. How hard is that to understand?