Tenacious Cassis
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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Style:
Fruit and Field Beer
Ranked #13
ABV:
16.5%
Score:
90
Ranked #3,828
Avg:
4.13 | pDev: 14.04%
Reviews:
113
Ratings:
167
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Michigan, United States
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Tenacious CassisTenacious Cassis
Notes: A special batch of "5th dementia old ale" that was overattenuated with high gravity ale yeast and then blended with cassis to add back body.
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GreesyFizeek from New York

4.54/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

This one pours a dark brownish/purplish color, with a small head, and not much lacing.

This smells like caramel, port, black currant, grape, dark fruit, and chocolate.

You can definitely tell the base here is some form of BA4D - there's lots of caramel, chocolate, and that herbal sort of cola-like sweetness. There's lots of black currant still left, even five years later, with a sort of port/red wine/dark grape earthy sweetness.

This is medium bodied, and somehow not syrupy, with very little booziness at this stage in the aging process.

This is just classic Kuhnhenn - so much of what they are good at in one package.

Monday at 03:29 AM
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superspak from Michigan

4.35/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12 ounce bottle into snifter, 2015 vintage. Pours hazy dark ruby red, light copper/brown color with a 1 finger dense and rocky light khaki head with great retention, that reduces to a thin lace cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings on the glass, with a fair amount of streaming carbonation. Aromas of big juicy/tart/tangy red currants, fruit skin/seeds, raisin, plum, prune, cherry, fig, date, apricot, red apple, red grape/wine, caramel, brown sugar, toffee, toasted biscuit, and brown bread/crust; with lighter notes of molasses, vanilla, cocoa, smoke, leather, tobacco, wood, herbal, grass, pepper, and yeast/toasted earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity of currants, fruity yeast, dark/bready/light roasted malts, and light-moderate earthy hop notes; with big strength. Taste of huge juicy/tart/tangy red currants, fruit skin/seeds, raisin, plum, prune, cherry, fig, date, apricot, red apple, red grape/wine, caramel, brown sugar, toffee, toasted biscuit, and brown bread/crust; with lighter notes of molasses, vanilla, cocoa, smoke, leather, tobacco, wood, herbal, grass, pepper, and yeast/toasted earthiness. Light-moderate herbal, woody, grassy, peppery bitterness; and fruit tang/tartness on the finish. Lingering notes of tart/tangy currants, fruit skin/seeds, raisin, plum, prune, cherry, fig, date, apricot, red apple, red grape/wine, caramel, brown sugar, toffee, toasted biscuit, brown bread/crust, molasses, vanilla, cocoa, smoke, leather, tobacco, wood, herbal, grass, pepper, and yeast/toasted earthiness on the finish for a while. Amazing complexity, robustness, and balance of currants, fruity yeast, dark/bready/light roasted malts, and light-moderate earthy hop flavors; with an amazing malt/bitterness, and tart/tangy fruit balance; with no cloying/astringent flavors after the finish. Lightly increasing dryness from lingering bitterness and tart/tangy fruit. Medium carbonation and very full body; with a very smooth, creamy/silky/bready, fairly sticky/acidic/tangy/tannic, and lightly slick mouthfeel that is fantastic. Minimal warming alcohol for 16.5%. Overall this is an amazing fruited old ale! All around incredible complexity, robustness, and balance of currants, fruity yeast, dark/bready/light roasted malts, and light-moderate earthy hop flavors; very smooth and dangerously easy to drink for the huge ABV, with the mellowly bitter/tart/tangy/drying finish. Amazingly soft feel for the big ABV. Perfectly balanced between jammy currants, fruity yeast, and rich dark/bready malt complexity; with nice earthy hop presence. Light residual sweet with lingering dryness. A highly enjoyable offering, and amazing style example as expected. Never had the base beer; but this is perfectly balanced between old ale and fruit character.

May 30, 2019
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Buck89 from Tennessee

4.4/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Just an incredible beer. Dark brown and slightly copper in color with a modest tan head. Bright aromas of caramel, cassis, and currents. The taste followed with a rich fruit flavor punctuated with caramel, faint better hops, and burnt toffee. An easy sipper. Full bodied and hefty with all the flavor to back it up.

Apr 03, 2019
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Alieniloquium from Florida

3.88/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle. Pours deep brown. Smells of strong currant and rich caramel and leathery malt. Tastes of tart currants right up front. Earthy malts and turn sweet. Brown sugar and tart currant finish. Medium body. No way is this 15% ABV. Very tasty and surprisingly easy to drink.

Jun 10, 2018
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Sabtos from Ohio

3.34/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Hazy burnt copper-brown with a moderate, lumpy off-white foam.

Smell is toasted graham, blueberry and cherry while taste is sweet of raspberry, grape, and a minimal hint of cherry with a thin but soft carbonation through the medium-light body, finishing dry. It's not as hot as I'd have expected by looking at the ABV, but there is a good sting.

May 24, 2018
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WesMantooth from Ohio

3.92/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 2015 bottle

It is a beautiful mahogany red. Semi transparent with a beige head that remains as a thick ring.

It smells malty and semi sour with some sweet berry (raspberry).

I have the flavor rated a little lower for 2 reasons. It is too sweet, and there is an out of place bitterness on the back end that reminds me of an American Barleywine. Otherwise, there is a bunch of raspberry and blackberry flavor on top of an almost Flanders like tart sourness and malty base.

This is exceptionally drinkable considering the abv and the rich sweetness. It has a little bit of body to it and carbonation is on the lower side so it is a little more port wine like.

I can accept the sweet dessert wine like aspect if the bitterness that seems to clash/stand out rather than balance it was gone. Enjoyable and unique

Dec 31, 2017
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SerialTicker from Michigan

4.3/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

At Kuhnhenn XV.

Well, that was outstanding ... unexpectedly one of my favorites from the event. 15%, but it goes down so stupidly easy. Almost mead-like, but still very much a beer... sweet, decadent, loaded with fruit. This is how a fruit beer should be. It's borderline a dessert wine, but again, a beer ... though it blurs the lines a bit. Not sure what else to say about this beer other than that I found it delicious and would really like to have it again. Yes, it's sweet, but come on... it's 15% and called Tenacious Cassis.

Aug 21, 2016
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amalburg from Michigan

4.44/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

L raisen brown with a thin head
S tart raspberry and current
T incredible. So fruity. No booze.
M thin. Light carbonation.
O holy smokes this is 15% and tastes like super complex juice. I can feel it after 6oz.

Jun 25, 2016
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wisrarebeer from Wisconsin

3.65/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottled in 2007/187ml. Popped with a slight hiss but poured with no head. Full fruity nose (mild port-like) but slightly medicinal. Fruity, full taste, some heat, Nice clean finish for age. Very little oxidation.

Mar 22, 2015
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sweemzander from Illinois

4.22/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

2007 vintage. Poured into a snifter. Thanks again for sharing Matt!

(A)- Pours a very deep blood red crimson color. Surprisingly, some white bubbles formed.

(S)- Quite a dense array of candied raspberry bramble bush in all. Subtle raisin and earthy sherry-like notes.

(T)- Quite a nice leathery component combined with a sweet sherry-like profile with some cocoa and raisin with sweet raspberry and grape fruits.

(M)- Quite sweet but also a superbly well hidden ABV. Very similar to a dessert wine in my tastes.

(O)- A very big but very successful fruit beer that is best saved for dessert or a nightcap. I definitely understand why they bottled this in those tiny 8oz. bottles since it is actually the perfect amount to enjoy this beer by.

Aug 01, 2013
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warnerry from Michigan

3.76/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

2007 vintage purchased at Winter Solstice 2011; 187 mL bottle

A - Pours a clear red/brown color with no carbonation to speak of.

S - Smell is mostly a wonderful aroma of currents, with a faint amount of alcohol and tootsie roll thrown in.

T - Taste seems to constantly change within a sip. At times fruity, at times boozy, definitely some tootsie roll. Unfortunately, also some unpleasant medicinal tastes and as others have mentioned, some astringent notes. Also a bit boozy, but pretty mild considering the abv. Definitely a mixed bag that doesn't live up to the aroma, but is still mostly enjoyable.

M - The astringency kills the mouthfeel a bit. Otherwise slightly syrupy.

O - Definitely an interesting one from Kuhnhenn. Haven't had this before, so I have no idea what the aging has been. There are a lot of nice things going on here, but unfortunately some unpleasant flavors prevent this from being great.

Mar 02, 2013
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aasher from Indiana

3.5/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2007 8oz. Bottle courtesy of Rempo, thanks Mark!

This beer pours a syrupy dark brown with purple overtones and no carbonation. The nose is big and syrupy with a lot of blueberry and grape characteristics. It definitely has loads of residual sugar. The flavors are odd. Its medicinal and has loads of blueberry, grape, almost generic sucker like fruit flavors. It's interesting. I don't care for the finish. It has too much sugar and is a little astringent. It is sticky sweet. The astringency definitely takes ahold with more sips. I'm definitely grateful that I could try this but It it just wasn't up my alley.

Aug 18, 2012
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DefenCorps from Oregon

4.22/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I believe this is the 2007 vintage, bottled in 12oz bottles. Received from goryshkewych and TheBlackMallard. Thanks, guys.

In my snifter this sits a beautiful deep crimson, briefly adorned with a brown head that dissipates rapidly leaving no lace. The nose is really, really good. Yes, it's syrupy and sweet, bringing to mind cough syrup, but the fruit character here is really interesting and enjoyable. Bursting with ripe acidity with currants, half-ripe grapes, but also with berries, specifically black cherries and raspberries. Some chocolate is also present, making this increasingly cough syrup-like. Despite its age, this smells surprisingly fresh, with no oxidative off-flavors. All said, the single most dominant characteristic of the nose is the fruit. There's even a little bit of prune character here.

The palate opens with a blend of big fruity sweetness, berry tartness, alcohol and syrup. The sweetness profile here is complex, with sugar, sugar syrup, brown sugar, caramel and a little toffee with a touch of molasses-like complexity. The fruit is really dominant on the mid-palate, with berries (black cherries, raspberries) and currants, with the cat pee-like muskiness. Sweet on the finish with a lingering chocolate, caramel and vanilla sugar sweetness, this beer is full in body with noticeable alcohol and softly carbonated. The alcohol does lend a little bit of bitterness and some bite. Despite the sweetness, the vibrancy and acidity of the berries make this really drinkable, more so than the much more lauded Raspberry Eisbock IMO.

Mar 30, 2012
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spdyfire83 from Ireland

1.96/5  rDev -52.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

182nd Review
Bottle to FredFest taster

From notes. Shared a while back with some excellent dudes one summer night in CO.

A: Dull, dark cranberry. No head on vigorous pour.

S: Yuck. Smells like burnt rubber, rotten veg, and over-ripened mixed berries. Not a good start.

T: The unpleasantness continues...mild fruit/berry sweetness up-front with bitter chocolate and toffee middle. The end is absolutely miserable though and I needed another beer to cleanse my palate. So much going on here, but the ABV overshadows the taste. Not enjoyable whatsoever and I was hard-pressed to finish my 1.5 ounce sample if that says anything. Simply putrid.

M: Full bodied with zero carbonation.

O: I was stoked to get two bottles of this beer in a trade a while back and was waiting for the "right time" to open it. I don't think I waited too long, I just think this beer was off (probably just the bottle). Not sure what the cellaring conditions were prior to it coming into my possession, but I was terribly disappointed with this - so much that I traded my other bottle away. Won't be returning to this anytime soon. A darn shame because I really like a lot of their other beers.

Feb 16, 2012
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travMI13 from Michigan

4.2/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2007 vintage, obtained at 2011 Winter Solstice. 6 oz. bottle poured into a tulip glass.

A: Deep, murky reddish-brown. No head whatsoever. Could certainly be confused with a red wine based upon appearance.

S: Red grapes, black currant, chocolate, and booze. This is a very interesting smell.

T: Red grapes, black currant, raspberries, and oak up front. There is a chocolate-covered raspberry flavor on the finish. Significant amount of booze, which is to be expected for 15%, but it is hidden well. The sweetness lingers, and there is certainly a warming effect. Make no mistake: this is a dessert beer, and an incredibly complex one at that.

M: Fairly thin mouthfeel with no carbonation. Sweet and slick. This really reminds me of a sweet red wine.

O: What a complex beer this is. Fantastic for dessert. I really took my time and savored this one. In all honesty, I probably could have shared this bottle with someone else because a little goes a long way. I prefer the Raspberry Eisbock, but I will be having this again if it is ever released again. Another great experimental brew from Kuhnhenn.

Feb 15, 2012
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drabmuh from Maryland

4.12/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared at yourefragile's the other day. At the time of this review, this beer is the #9 top beer on the best of Fruit / Vegetable Beer list. Fun, top 10 beer! Thanks!

Beer is dark ruby wiht a little haze, tan thin weak head, small bubbles. No lacing, low carbonation.

Aroma is fruity, raspberries, chocolate, currants (although at the time I guessed cherries, I wasn't sure what I was drinking), smells really nice. Perhaps a slight oxidation.

Beer is medium in body and sweet, with strong fruit flavors. The finish is a little bitter, the chocolate comes up in the back half of the palate, an interesting beer.

Jan 25, 2012
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yourefragile from District of Columbia

4.14/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle, thanks Fred.

Pours a clear and thick dark ruby brown with minimal head or lace. Aroma is like DFH but appealing; very sweet without being cloying, heavy on currants, licorice, raspberry, and butterscotch. Flavor has a subtle bitterness in the finish and undercurrent of chocolate and licorice to cut the intense berry fruit that dominates. Thick and viscous body with minimal carbonation, covering the palate like an oil slick. Very enjoyable.

Jan 14, 2012
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321jeff from Maryland

4.42/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle from Fred. Much thanks for this original bottling of this rarity.

Pours a reddish brown with almost no head. It's kind of pretty like some kind of brandy.

Aroma is still very hot with lots of sweet dark fruits and alcohol. Much more like a fruit based spirit than any beer I've ever smelled.

taste is sweet up front, and really all the way through with a finish that kind of reminds me of nyquil, but in a good way...

Mouthfeel is thick all the way through with no carb. Really drinks more like a spirit than a beer. Very interesting...

Jan 14, 2012
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starrdogg from District of Columbia

4.12/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle shared by Fred.

Beer pours a dark reddish brown with very little head and hardly any lacing. Smell is extremely fruity and fantastic with booze hiding in there. Flavor is certainly unique, berries and tootsie rolls and very big, definitely a sipper. Mouthfeel is medium-full bodied with low carbonation. Overall this is very interesting, not a beer you need a whole lot of, but very nice.

Jan 14, 2012
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corby112 from Pennsylvania

3.79/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a very dark plum color that's completely opaque with a miniscule off-white head that lingers for a minute before disappearing. No lacing.

Sweet vinous aroma that's bursting with currant, dark cherry, blueberry, grape and other dark berries. This is countered by a nice malt character with hints of chocolate cake, fudge and toffee. Slightly syrupy/medicinal character but not overpowering and although the ABV is really high, there us little to no booze in the nose. Smells like dessert!

Medium bodied with a very prominent vinous, dark fruit flavor that's countered by dark malt notes and boozy sweetness. Lots of sweet currant flavor along with some grape, blackberry, blueberry and other dark berries before being countered by hints of toffee and chocolate cake. Even with the maltier notes it's still too sweet for my liking. The ABV is decently masked considering its 15% but there still a decent amount of boozy warmth throughout.

Dec 30, 2011
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StarshipPoopers from Canada

4.2/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Ruby with a fair amount of transparency. Very little head or retention.

S - Sour with hints of dark fruits, including cherry. Alcohol definitely comes through in the aroma.

T - Cough syrup is a perfect description for how this beer feels. The dark fruits provide a very juicy backbone, and there is a cherry edge which gives it an almost artificial tasting bite. It all combines to taste a lot like a cherry cough syrup, which sounds disgusting but tastes quite good. A very all encompassing flavour that mostly drowns out the alcohol, though the booziness comes through partway through the taste and lingers in the finish. Sweet chocolate also comes through in the finish, with an edge of the dark fruit. The finish is a smooth jammy sweetness that is neither too sticky or sweet. Strange but satisfying.

M/D - High carbonation, medium bodied.

O - Never had anything quite like it. A very unique beer that manages to make drinking cough syrup for intoxication seem classy.

Dec 24, 2011
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brewandbbq from New Hampshire

4.01/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

6.3oz bottle from 2007, review #1000 on BA.

Pours cloudy brown with some large bubbles kicked up from a stretch pour. A placid surface with zero lacing throughout the glass. This beer is almost still.

Aromatics lead off with a blast of alcohol laced with dark fruit. Nose-clearing in nature with sweet malt, dark caramel, currants, fusels, and cough syrup.

On the fuller side of medium bodied with a syrupy, slick mouthfeel.

Currants, alcohol, carmelized malt, and dark fruit start the palate. Sweet fruit and malt follow through, riding atop a wave of throat-warming alcohol. Low bitterness or other hopping for that matter.

Finishes with lingering alcohol and jammy fruit.

A strong beer for sure, the alcohol is not too fusel-laden and there is plenty of throat warmth, but no burn. Loads of sweet, dark fruit but the beer would benefit greatly from any amount of carbonation.

Dec 16, 2011
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thagr81us from South Carolina

4.24/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Had this one during the 'We Want The Funk!' tasting that was graciously hosted by beermeX2! Big thanks goes out to BRoss242 for sharing this one with the group! 2007 Vintage! Served from bottle into a Mikkeller flute. Poured orange-brown with a very minimal cream colored head. There was no lacing evident throughout. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, caramel, blackberry, and raspberry. The flavor was of sweet malt, caramel, toffee, raspberry, and blackberry. It had a medium feel on the palate with low carbonation. Overall this was a great brew. There was just something about this with how the berries and caramel/toffee aspect worked really well together. I have to say that this one has aged pretty well over the years for the most part. Maybe the carbonation suffered a little as a result, but hey, the flavor made up for this one. Just hate it was in a ~6 oz bottle...

Jul 12, 2011
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Bung from Michigan

3.74/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2007 6.3 oz. Nearly still red mohoghany pour. Not much more to say.

Aroma, port, sherry. Candied sugar, light brown sugar. It's sweet but very inviting.

Sherry quality very present in the taste. Cassis, actually didn't find the taste nearly sweet as the aroma. Slight fig, roast, very faint dark chocolate.
Just a tad medicinal.

A little boozier than the Raspberry Eis, but still not terrible for 15%. Completely coating, could really use just a bit of carbonation. It was difficult to drink even just the 6 ounces.

Closer to a cordial than a beer. Worth trying, but let someone else foot the bill.

Jun 26, 2011
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pwoods from Ohio

3.82/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Kels for bringing this bottle back about 2 years ago. 6.3oz green nip bottle poured into a tulip.

A: Pours deep ruby with a thin wisp of head that doesn't last. Some legs but no real lacing.

S: Deep toffee and caramel aromas. Chocolate covered cherries and currants. Plenty of smooth, mellowed alcohol.

T/M: Intense sweetness, but a rich sweetness. Sweet instead of rich chocolate with more of the toffee and caramel. The currents are potent and mix well with the pleasant alcohol. Body is full with just a wisp of carbonation... A touch more would help.

D: Tasty and interesting but not something I'd go to very often. Especially at it's price.

Jun 19, 2011
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Beer rating: 90 out of 100 with 167 ratings