Tenacious Cassis
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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Fruit and Field Beer
Ranked #13
Ranked #3,843
4.13 | pDev: 14.04%
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
Tenacious CassisTenacious Cassis
Notes: A special batch of "5th dementia old ale" that was overattenuated with high gravity ale yeast and then blended with cassis to add back body.
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Buck89 from Tennessee

4.4/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Just an incredible beer. Dark brown and slightly copper in color with a modest tan head. Bright aromas of caramel, cassis, and currents. The taste followed with a rich fruit flavor punctuated with caramel, faint better hops, and burnt toffee. An easy sipper. Full bodied and hefty with all the flavor to back it up.

Apr 03, 2019
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GreesyFizeek from New York

4.54/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

This one pours a dark brownish/purplish color, with a small head, and not much lacing.

This smells like caramel, port, black currant, grape, dark fruit, and chocolate.

You can definitely tell the base here is some form of BA4D - there's lots of caramel, chocolate, and that herbal sort of cola-like sweetness. There's lots of black currant still left, even five years later, with a sort of port/red wine/dark grape earthy sweetness.

This is medium bodied, and somehow not syrupy, with very little booziness at this stage in the aging process.

This is just classic Kuhnhenn - so much of what they are good at in one package.

Jun 01, 2020
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weeare138 from Pennsylvania

4.44/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Much thanks to hopdog for this...
Appears a dark brown, nearing purple with a small white head that quickly fades out into a mild head. Small spots are left around the glass.
Smell is of blackberries, brown sugar, cocoa, citrusy, herbal hops, & port wine.
Taste is of ripe, dark fruit, roasty, oats, black grapes, and molasses.
Mouthfeel is full bodied, chewy, sweet, complex, sticky, with noticable abv.
Well done and will do great with aging.

Mar 19, 2008
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Brewfan from Connecticut

4.2/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Growler shared with Cooperrip. Thanks John.

Poured into a Chouffe tulip. Murky brown body with minimal head. What head there is is a light beige. Nice amount of carbonation. Immediate musty, earthy, fruity currant aroma with some chocolate thrown in for good measure. Like strongly ripened stone fruit.
Very fruity on the tongue. Alcoholic bite is there, but masked by the fruitiness and mustyness. Definitely not a chugger. The 15% is not overtly apparent, but it does sneak up on you. Once you become used to the complexity of the tastes, a chocolate-covered-cherry taste comes to the forfront. Port like and dense. Very nice beer for one of our colder nights of the year. This would age greatly.

Oct 08, 2008
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brewandbbq from New Hampshire

4.01/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

6.3oz bottle from 2007, review #1000 on BA.

Pours cloudy brown with some large bubbles kicked up from a stretch pour. A placid surface with zero lacing throughout the glass. This beer is almost still.

Aromatics lead off with a blast of alcohol laced with dark fruit. Nose-clearing in nature with sweet malt, dark caramel, currants, fusels, and cough syrup.

On the fuller side of medium bodied with a syrupy, slick mouthfeel.

Currants, alcohol, carmelized malt, and dark fruit start the palate. Sweet fruit and malt follow through, riding atop a wave of throat-warming alcohol. Low bitterness or other hopping for that matter.

Finishes with lingering alcohol and jammy fruit.

A strong beer for sure, the alcohol is not too fusel-laden and there is plenty of throat warmth, but no burn. Loads of sweet, dark fruit but the beer would benefit greatly from any amount of carbonation.

Dec 16, 2011
SPLITGRIN from Kentucky

4.54/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours to a deep blackish purple body. Head is a light brown even foam standing at an inch and fading fast leaving just a skim. Nose is decisevly grape based and oh so ripe. There are some raspberry notes also. Very very nice. Enters the mouth with brash robust rich dark fruits. There are some tones of ripe grape skins, raspberry jam, black licorice and burnt malt in the flavor profile. All of this is carried by an alchol feel that includes port and cough syrup. Mouthfeel is along the lines of grape meets licorice. At 12oz. you could probably share the bottle with someone as this is quite the sipper. Delecious and very unique.

Oct 31, 2008
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DLucky from Florida

4.5/5  rDev +9%

Sep 04, 2013
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Crosling from Colorado

2.78/5  rDev -32.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Basically a dark muddy brown color with a thin, quickly diminishing foam. Light wafting reveals some nice aromas of black currant, chocolate, toffee and red licorice, but a strong sniff reveals an awful core of medicinal qualities, like a trip to the pharmacy and a big whiff of antibiotics. Flavor is too fruity and too sweet. I feel like there is a great tasting beer underneath the overly fruity, overly sweet, medicinal mess. There is some very tasty notes of dessert-like malts, but overall, tastes like a handful of pills and sugary sweet black currants. Disappointed. Had higher hopes.

Nov 18, 2008
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Sammy from Canada

3.94/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Apr 18, 2018
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drabmuh from Maryland

4.12/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared at yourefragile's the other day. At the time of this review, this beer is the #9 top beer on the best of Fruit / Vegetable Beer list. Fun, top 10 beer! Thanks!

Beer is dark ruby wiht a little haze, tan thin weak head, small bubbles. No lacing, low carbonation.

Aroma is fruity, raspberries, chocolate, currants (although at the time I guessed cherries, I wasn't sure what I was drinking), smells really nice. Perhaps a slight oxidation.

Beer is medium in body and sweet, with strong fruit flavors. The finish is a little bitter, the chocolate comes up in the back half of the palate, an interesting beer.

Jan 25, 2012
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jh1982 from Nevada

4/5  rDev -3.1%

Nov 14, 2011
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brentk56 from North Carolina

4.4/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Appearance: Arrives at the bar with a tawny brown color with garnet highlights; the modest head nevertheless leaves some lace behind

Smell: Tart aroma of currants with some chocolate undertones

Taste: At first split second, it is like liquid chocolate; only to be quickly overwhelmed by the tart currant flavors that build by mid-palate; after the swallow, the flavors blend together nicely into a lingering finish

Mouthfeel: Full body with gentle carbonation

Drinkability: Delicious in small quantities; marvelously complex; the abv was listed on this batch at 16.5%

Jul 16, 2008
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bozebus17 from Michigan

4.64/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 3.5

A huge thanks goes to Bret Kuhnhenn who pulled this out of the back for me.

Pours a deep dark crimson. A small tan head makes a quick appearence before leaving. There isn't much lacing or head with this high abv brew.

There is so much going on in the nose with this one it is hard to put into words. My first thought was fruit punch. It smells of raspberries, bread, brown sugar, and alcohol. The aroma is so strong I could smell it a few feet from the goblet I poured it into. Very enticing.

Upon first sip I was overwhelmed by the fruitiness of this beer. There are all kinds of berry flavors in this one. I am also hit with a grape-like flavor which is sweet and somewhat tart. Alcohol is evident in the finish but not unwelcome.

Wow, this is amazing stuff! I would love to drink this by a fireplace on a cold winter night, or while digesting a holiday meal with family. This is a definite sipper, I enjoyed it over the period of an hour. This beer is big and flavorful so one in a sitting is definitely enough. I only hope that this beer is more widely released. This is without a doubt one of the best and most unique beers I have ever had. Well done Kuhnhenn's!

Oct 06, 2007
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DrJay from Texas

4.32/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Grabbed this one at the Winter Solstice Party, 12/07.
Poured a dark reddish brown, kind of murky, with a tan collar. There was a little bit of spotty lace. Currants hit my nose first, fairly intense, with a bit of herbal/minty character. Lots of fruit, mostly berries, raspberry and strawberry, some red grape. Toffee was close behind though, along with dark chocolate, giving it a rich aroma. Nice balance of sweet caramel/toffee with the fruity currants. Bitterness played a backup role here, but stayed solid throughout. Some alcohol flavour and lots of warmth in the finish. Lots of fruit again, raspberry and blackberry, with a bit of mint towards the end. Mild cocoa filled out the background too. Good stuff. Easy drinking considering the abv.

Mar 03, 2008
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Viggo from Canada

4.32/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle, think grub picked one of these up for me a couple years ago at the Solstice party.

Pours a murky ruby red, some purple highlights, medium sized tan head forms, drops to a thick ring, good amount of lace on the glass, especially for the ABV. Smell is wacky, but awesome, tons of blackberry, currants, raisin, raspberry, caramel, chocolate, biscuit, alcohol, very bready, licorice, brandy and port, tons of fruit, pretty crazy. Taste is great too, blackberries and currants, raspberries, caramel cake, very fruity, biscuit, alcohol, chocolate covered raisins, big licorice hit, candy, sweet in the finish, but pretty crazy stuff. Mouthfeel is medium to fuill bodied, very sticky feel to it, low carbonation, pretty great intensity of flavours, good stuff.

Aug 13, 2009
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ChainGangGuy from Georgia

4.45/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a dark brown body with ruby-hued hints at the edges and encircled by a ring of off-white bubbles. Here goes nothing.

Smell: Holy moly, you can smell the black currants the second the cap is lifted from the bottle. No doubt I'm in for a treat. Pure cassis, babies!

Taste: Dark malts bolstered by a strong sweetness. The flavor is dominated by the concentrated, liqueur-like black currant taste. Faint hint of roast, a touch of chocolate. A lip-licking tartness from the fruit comes out to temper the sweetness. Finishes leaving a lightly tart aftertaste.

Mouthfeel: Full-bodied. Medium carbonation. Thick, tongue-coating mouthfeel. Wonderfully warming.

Drinkability: Sporting an intense, yet refined cassis liqueur flavor, this beverage is best suited to a post-dinner sipper or instances of plotting intriques. I will always adore Kuhnhenn for brewing this beer, as well as others like their Raspberry Eisbock, Fourth Dementia, and Imperial Stout. Don't care what they churn out in the future; they'll forever have my awe because of these beers.

But that's just me.

Mar 25, 2008
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hopdog from Pennsylvania

4.42/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle acquired in trade with hoppymeal (thanks!).

Poured a medium brownish color with a very small sized off white head. Aromas of all kinds of berries (I could smell them as sooned as I popped the cap), grapes, chocolate, and a little roasty. Tastes of the same berries and chocolate. Chocolate coated berries. Alcohol burn in the finish (well, it is 15%). A nice dessert / sipping beer!

Notes from 2/8/08

Nov 10, 2008
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ej285701 from Ohio

4.5/5  rDev +9%

Nov 15, 2011
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emerge077 from Illinois

3.5/5  rDev -15.3%

Feb 17, 2014
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SacoDeToro from California

2.28/5  rDev -44.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Bottle at recent Woodshop Tasting in Temple City.

The beer poured a dark red/brown with a small white head.

The beer smelled of stale fruit and had vague malt aromas that I couldn't quite pin down. Boozy too.

The flavor of the beer was all over the place. Stale black currants - some sour note - flat and non-descript hop characteristics - strange stale caramel malts. Oh, yeah, the alcohol was very untamed on this one. It had a good deal of fusels that came through added to the bitterness in the finish.

The mouthfeel of the beer was a little thin. The carbonation was slightly prickly.

This beer was a mess IMO. I'm not sure what the brewers were going for, but whatever it was, it's not to be repeated in the same fashion. This is too bad too - the American Imperial Stout I had from them recently was outstanding.

Mar 18, 2008
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TurdFurgison from Ohio

4.51/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

6.3oz bottle, 2007 vintage. I picked this up at Cloverleaf earlier this year, forgot I had it, found it deep in the cellar tonight. And here we are. The beer is a dark red shade of brown, transparent at the edges, with a thin ring of tan bubbles. The aroma is big-time fruit and toffee, apparently the fruit is cassis (never had cassis before to my knowledge). Very similar smell as Kuhnhenn Raspberry Eisbock, I'm not sure but I'd guess much of the base beer is the same. I smell a little chocolate in there too, and maybe a hint of cheese. The taste is, if anything, better than the Raspberry Eisbock. This berry taste is key, also currant and chocolate, maybe a hint of cherry, and more than a hint of alcohol (but well integrated, it just adds some mild burn). Wow, really really good, with a mildly syrupy body and lingering chocolate candy aftertaste. A sipper, and 6.3oz is about enough. To be purchased again.

Nov 29, 2009
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grub from Canada

4.64/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle purchased at the winter solstice party dec 21/07. website shows 13.5% abv. sampled jan 13/08.

pours murky reddish brown with a few very fine tan bubbles that disappear almost instantly. no lace.

aroma is excellent. tons of fruit. blackberry, raspberry, currant, bit of cherry. alcohol. nice fruity and caramel sweetness. many cascading layers of fruit that just keep you going back for more.

wow, taste is excellent too. tons of fruit with a solid warming alcohol balanced against it. even more fruit in the flavour. along with the raspberry, blackberry, and currant there is also a nice strawberry character. my wife says it tastes like liquified wine gums. i get something more like those fruit juice gummies, the berry ones. low bitterness level. there's a nice dark chocolate character lingering back there too. just a hint of caramel sweetness, but nowhere near enough to make the fruit seem syrupy. light bread and cracker malt.

mouthfeel is good. low carbonation level. medium body holding things together well. fairly dry finish.

drinkability is great. at no point does the fruit overpower. the alcohol is mostly hidden, and what's there is nice. nice depth to the fruit too. a bit of a sipper, but i certainly enjoyed sipping on it over the afternoon. as it warms the alcohol comes out more, detracting from the drinkability slightly. might be better if this was in the smaller bottles they sell the eisbock in, or maybe for sharing with a friend. this one is definitely a winner.

Jan 13, 2008
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mcallister from Ohio

4.22/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A dark demon of a beer. Quite honestly it resembles cassis:) Almost black showing no transparency. Head is tan and nicely carbonated.

Amazing nose of fresh cassis and cat piss. Earthy esters but frut dominated with some dark bready malts. Bright acidity is lively and in your face.

An amazing beer. Unique quality from the thick cassis flavors and even thicker creamier depth of malt. Juicy in the mouth. The cassis is a little overpowering on the finish slightly hurting drinkability. Some time in the bottle can help this beer mellow out tremendously. A crazy beeer, thick and juicy so malty with some big alcohol showing through. Very cough syrupy long drawn out finish. Wow!!

Jan 05, 2008
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kirok1999 from Ohio

3.7/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a thick dark brown with just a little bit of an off white head.
Smell is overwhelming, sweet and tart candied fruit.
Taste is again overwhelming. Massive amounts of tart fruits, I guess it's currants, I really don't recall eating many currants. Lots of other fruits as well, mostly grape. Almost no carbonation gives this a dense mouthfeel and leaves me with just a hint of chocolate covered raspberries.
Don't know how the hell anyone could drink more than one of these. It's a real experience and I thank mcallister for bringing this one over.

Feb 27, 2008
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hoppymeal from Michigan

4.5/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark brown cola in color, slight amount of sediment sneaks into the glass, mainly still, a vigorous pour shows just a dusting of light cream foam at the surface. Aroma is rich and malty, great cassis berry aroma mixed with some rich dark fruits, prunes and figs. Almost meaty in the aroma, a bit of old worn leather in there as well. Berries are at the forefront of the taste and keep the taste fairly refreshing for a 15 %abv. The dark fruitiness of prunes and figs and the meatiness is there as well, a nice aged malty quality, backing up the sweet berries. Mouthfeel is medium to heavy, probably on the heavier side, the dense malty sugars coat the mouth, and the small amount of carbonation helps to rinse it clean before a taste of the alcohol strength warms the throat. Outstanding beer, very much like the extraneous cassis, the berries make this beer, though the aged big rich malty quality that is evident in so many Kuhnhenn beers is stellar as well. Thank god for Kuhnhenn, great beer.

Jun 14, 2008
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