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Armand'4 Oude Geuze WinterArmand'4 Oude Geuze Winter
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij Drie Fonteinen
Belgium | website

Style: Gueuze

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by MasterSki on 12-16-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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66
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258
Avg:
4.35
pDev:
16.09%
 
 
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Photo of cbutova
4.95/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

Eternal gratitude goes out to my cousin Sonny for sharing this set at Ebenezer's 2016. Just stunning generosity.

A- Deep coppery orange body from the grand corked bottle into my tasting glass. Atop the 4oz pour rises a foamy white head which retains fairly well after reaching about an inch high. Spotty lacing.

S- Bright and pungent funktafied lambic explosion out of the glass. Probably my personal favorite aroma from the four of the set and with this being last, woah. Intensely musty but at the same time fresh sour stone fruits, lemons, lactic acid, sour wine grapes, apple and funky old horse barn. Not very cheesy this time; a cleaner and balanced blend. Raspberry even comes to mind.

T- Pure, unadultered lambic genius in this bottle. The blend brings out the best of both the young and the old as intense lactic acid bacteria and funky yeast marry each other happily. Here comes a big list: lemons, old laidback oak, slight vinous tannins, a touch of wood, underripe apricots, crusty grains, horsey barn, musty old basement, sour wine grapes, apple skin, general citrus zest and a tiny bit of vinegar.

MF- A light to medium overall body with a foamy and somewhat frothy texture. The slickness is apparent and plays off the very, very sour finish. Crisp and suitable for the complex, aged lambic flavors.

My favorite of the four Armands and the last of the set. Old and new lambic come together and are blended to near perfection. Just amazing. In retrospect I am glad I did the series blind and without any knowledge of the general scores before getting into it. The least favorite by the consensus ended up being perhaps my favor Gueuze I have ever had. To each their own. This series of lambic is seriously other-worldly.

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Photo of PDXAmbassador
4.41/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Pour is fizzier than the rest of the seasons, and ends up being a slow gusher. Smell is hay, diesel, stone fruit. A fair amount of alcohol on the nose. Taste is fruity, solid amount of 3F funk. Lovely lingering apricot flavor. Least favorite of the seasons, but still a world class Gueuze.

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Photo of mothman
4.49/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Lots of fizzy white head that fades leaving lace. Darker than herfst. Dark golden orange.

This one definitely is winter. It is maltier and has a nice caramel flavor. Has a floral and herbal flavor with a nice amount of funk. Not as sour as the other ones. Reminds me of a faro.

Light bodied. Nice carbonation and feel.

Great beer. Definitely different than the others. Unique and delicious.

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Photo of Jeffo
3.93/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

We lined up all four seasons at Sloshfest 2015 a little while ago. Good fun with mediocre people. Cheers gents!

From a 750 into a wine glass

APPEARANCE: Pours a big, four finger, foamy white head with excellent retention. Hazy, darker gamboge or amber orange with a touch of carbonation evident. Foamy cap remains until the end leaving lots of foamy lacing down the glass. Definitely the darkest of the set.

SMELL: Funky aromas with hay, a bit of citrus fruit notes and some acidity as well. Quite musty and dank; almost equally as musty at Herfst. Definitely one of the bolder bottlings in the series, and this one shows some more acidity as well.

TASTE: Funky with barnyard, some light citrus notes, tart lemon and sourness up front. Medium finish with hay and barnyard funk, some bolder musty and dank qualities, with hints of fruity citrus as well. A touch more acidity than the others in the series as well. Basically this is a bolder, slightly more acidic version of Herfst.

PALATE: Medium body with medium levels of carbonation. Creamy and soft on the palate, goes down fine and finishes dry. Some tart lemon lingers.

OVERALL: All of these were solid and this one is no different, but I'd put this one as last out of the four. It's bolder than Zomer and has a nice array of musty and funky stuff going on, basically being a bolder version of Herfst, but it's a little more acidic than the others, which I don't mind in general, but compared to the others, it's a bit less enjoyable. Still a wonderful gueuze and works really well in the series. It was piles of fun to put them all together and see how the four compare to each other. In the end, there are small differences and what not, but it is very obvious that they're all very, very closely related. Finding differences is rather nit-picky. In any case, this was a pile of fun and I'm very happy to have been able to try them all in a row. Cheers boys, and thanks to me for sharing =P

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Photo of peensteen
4.14/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Amber orange colour, ring of white head and some lace. Smell is is oaky, lemons and vinegar, a touch malty as well. Taste starts off with tart lemon juice upfront, slight sweetness creeps in, oaky, funky with fruit in the finish. Medium/light carbonation, medium body. My least favourite of the seasons but still above average geuze, having them all side by side really highlights how different and similar they are, thanks again Liam.

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Photo of cultclassic89
4.59/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Winter was pretty interesting. It started out with a weird nose, kind of alcoholic, but as it opened up it became incredible. I had it at #4 in the set at first, still not sure where I have it at now.

Very similar to Herfst, a bit darker than the first two season in flavor, very well balanced.

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Photo of sjccmd
4.95/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

Aroma of oranges, bright acidity, earthy funk, and surprisingly nutty toffee. Quite interesting and complex. Slightly cheesy, some acetic notes. Graham cracker, lots of oak character. Strawberries, grassy, honey, mushrooms, and tea. Woof.

Hazy orange with an off-white head that has surprisingly good retention. Not too much lacing.

Tart but happily not heavy on acetic acid. Apples and berries. Acidity is sharp initially but doesn't stick on the back of the tongue or cheeks. Almonds and wheat come in on the finish. Surprisingly very fresh tasting on the palate. Lots of oak. Lemon and hay. Funk reminiscent of pu erh tea. It only gets better as it warms.

Acidity fills the mouth but finishes relatively clean with lingering woody notes on the palate. High carbonation with medium light body. Lots of depth.

I haven't had a gueuze quite like this. I had a Herfst not too long ago that was a bit too heavy on the acetic acid. Not this. Plenty tart for sure, but very nice yogurt-y lactic acid. Age has served this beer quite well.

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Photo of kevanb
4.51/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle poured into a Drie Fonteinen fountain tumbler glass. Enjoyed on 12.6.14, reviewed from Tasting Journal.


The beer pours a darker orange color, amber hues, hazy and cloudy with a nice finger plus of white head that has great retention and yields nice swatches of soapy lace. The aroma is really funky, plenty of wheat, lightly spiced, a nice dose of citrus with some bitter aged hops, earthy and floral, balanced with nice complexity. The flavors match well, lots of citrus, funk, wheat, bitter aged hops, definitely the most hop forward of the gueuzes, wildflower and pine come with it, a bit of a spice note that compliments the more earthy qualities of this beer. The mouthfeel is nice, crisp, lively, coating but prickly with very ample carbonation that still manages to finish easily.

Verdict: Well, yet again, Armand makes a great gueuze. Perhaps the least representative of the season, but with the almost piney and spicy character, I can almost envision a snowy winter scene, but I'll admit it's a reach. That being said, this beer is balanced super well, offers great complexity and cements itself as a world class gueuze, though easily overshadowed by the rest of the set.

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Photo of sweemzander
4.78/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

750mL corked and caged bottle poured into a tulip glass. Bottled in 2010
(A) - Pours a lovely golden straw yellow color with a nice fluffy white head with surprising retention.
(S)- Some awesome straw and barnyard funk meets lemon peel and a light slightly cheesy lactic acid component. Very earthy and welcoming.
(T)- Deep citrus of lemon peel with a soft acidity and plenty of straw-like funk sets the stage for a surprisingly soft body that balances the funk and sourness quite well
(M)- A superb carbonation level. The soft acidity in conjunction with a balanced yet complex funky profile really makes this one and easy drinker. Slightly sharp, but never overpowering.
(O)- First time having this one and it is superb. Each and every one of these seasonal geuzes are dynamic, complex, yet perfectly balanced. Should have bought more

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Photo of EdKing
4.71/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Bottle shared with Josh (Maneliquor) at CBC Islington at Bruce’s birthday. Nice rich looking bright amber, huge white foam head in the glass which slowly dissipates to thin. Nose is probably the most beautiful gueuze I’ve tasted. I could just sit and smell this all day. It’s big sour, acidic, lots of horse blanket and funk, caramel, green apples, very tangy. Deep rich aromas. Taste is slightly more restrained but still a complex and full flavoured limbic. Green apples, sour, acidic, lots of funk and horse blanket, yeasty, grainy malt. Balance is about as good as it gets. Phenomenal beer.

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Photo of Jonada
4.33/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First review of 2014

Presentation: 750 ml bottled 4/22/2010. Best before 4/2020. Poured into a Cantillon stemmed glass. Cork removed with relative ease, but did not shoot out, and the bottle was not a gusher as has been reported with some of these.

Appearance: Pours a dark sunset orange color with 2+ fingers of an eggshell colored head. Great retention and lots of lacing. Body is very hazy with tons of visible carbonation streaming throughout the glass.

Smell: Barnyard funk, horseblanket, rotting fruit, green apple, basement, orange, hay. Super funky and inviting.

Taste: Tart, funky and sour all the way through to the finish. Orchard fruit, lemon, earthy, herbal with a noticeable malt character that provides a slight sweetness.

Mouthfeel: Medium/light bodied, slightly creamy mouthfeel. Carbonation is high but works for the style. Finishes dry.

Overall: As with the other Armand'4 beers this is a world glass gueuze. To me this is the most "different" beer in the series, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Put aside the fact that this is part of a set, and this is worth seeking out on it's own.

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Photo of Stevedore
4.46/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle from the Armand'4 set; generously contributed by Doug. Poured into an unlabeled snifter today, 12/8/2013.

Review #323.

Pours a hazy light brown-orange body, very effervescent with large volumes of fluffy white head that retains quite well. Not much lacing is left on these, and this beer eventually lost carbonation over the course of a half hour becoming a quite placid beer.

Smells phenomenal. Of the 3 non-Lente Seasons we had, this smelled by far the most intense and most peppery. It makes my brain yell freshly ground peppercorns, along with a nice tannic oak and a decent bit of funk. Very complex and intense, easily the best of the night. It holds the nose very well, even after the rest of the beer goes downhill as it warms up.

This was crisp, refreshing but not particularly complex. It's especially peppery and it does start out quite funky, earthy and tannic, but as the beer warms up, it simply loses whatever oomph it had. I see why this is the lowest rated of all the 4, but I maintain it is better than 99% of the geuzes out there.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied, great carbonation at first. But, as it warms up, it simply loses all the carbonation and becomes flat. I've never had a geuze do that to me before, but that's what happened to it. Still, at first it's very crisp, dry and refreshing with a nice end-palate of peppercorn and earthy funk.

Even though we can all agree this is the least of the Seasons, this is still a fantastic geuze that is worth trying at least once. At the very least, it presents a different kind of flavour and nose than the others.

Re-review: Drank alongside the other 3 Seasons on 3/30/2015. Served in a 3F stemmed glass. It still smells fantastic and rivals Lente and Zomer in terms of the nose. Quite a bit of flavour, even if a bit subtle. However, as it warms up, the flavour profile falls off quite a bit. Not disappointing at all nevertheless. Still drinking well but I don't anticipate it getting better with age.

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Photo of HuskyinPDX
4.29/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Bottle opened on 8.20.13

A - Pours a murky, very light brown with a huge cream-colored head that never fades.

S - Very, very funky, lots of woody, slightly citrus, and tons of horseblanket funk.

T - Funky, wood-very earthy and dirty.

D - Dry, Good carbonation with a light body.

O - Very funky and dry, but not overly complex. Still stellar, but not as good as the other seasons in my opinion.

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Photo of Thehuntmaster
4.48/5  rDev +3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle 6,0% Abv.
Served chilled in an over sized wine glass.
Reviewed from rather old notes.

Appearance: Winter might just be the darkest geuze I have had, appearing a moderately hazed deep orange (verging on amber) in the glass. A rough pour yields a massive off white head that lasts very well for a sour and coats the glass in thick rings of lacing as it recedes.

Smell: As with the rest of the beers in the series Winter smells fantastic, though somewhat different from from what I had expected. The nose combines a very earthy funk profile (dry corn husk, old hay, dust, old leaves, musty basement and a little mushroom), with tart fruits (lemon and apricot), a fair amount of oak and a surprising underlying sweetness.
As the beer warms, a sweeter orange note emerges as well as a musty herbal quality.

Taste: The flavour is quite a lot tarter than I expected given the nose and offers decent amounts of lemon and apricot, as well as just a hint acidic cider vinegar. Other notes include: A fair amount of oak, dry grass, old leaves, some sweeter fruit notes (orange and peach), a touch of mushroom, old wood and musty basement.

Mouthfeel: The body is light-medium, with an exceptionally high level of carbonation.

Overall: Another delicious beer in the Armand '4 series - I will have to get another bottle or two to put in the cellar.

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Photo of illidurit
4.59/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared at the RateBeer Gallery event in San Francisco. Pours orange with a light khaki head. Lovely aroma of meyer lemons, perfumey citrus, limes, chlorine, brett. Lemon and nectarine notes in flavor, sour stone fruit pits, absolutely divine all around.

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Photo of KickInTheChalice
4.18/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

From notes. Poured from a 750 mL bottle into a tulip. Compared with Lente, Zomer, and Herfst side by side.

Winter is a little bit lighter than the others of the series, still with a nice bubbly carbonation on the pour that rests gently as a small cap for the duration of the glass.

The aroma has a much stronger earthy and musty aroma than the other three. There are notes of mushrooms and funky cheese to go along with a tart lemon character and a bit of hay.

The flavor really follows the aroma. There is actually a bit of sweetness up front, with the tartness taking its time to come in. The flavor is more earthy and mellow, with lemon zest providing more support and balance than a true dominating flavor. Winter is definitely less fruity than the other seasons as well.

The body is slightly lighter than the other seasons, with a creamy and smooth carbonation that matches what I have seen from the other three. It is also fairly dry, with a fairly strong oak presence.

Even though I did not prefer Winter to the others of the series, this is still a strong offering.

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Photo of gueuzedreg
4.48/5  rDev +3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Opened on a fridgid day.

A- Dark cider hue. Pours a very thick head, probably 4 fingers in a snifter. Retention is pretty good leaving 1/2 finger head after one minute with glue like legs to the glass.

S- Definitely more earthy malt coming out of this compared with Lente. More hay, etc. Lots of funk.

T- Going along with the S, less citrus and more of an earthy funk. Great to follow with the seasons.

M- Medium body, but lots of carb. Probably the weak point if there is one for this brew.

O- Very good gueuze. Love it.

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Photo of SpeedwayJim
4.65/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to Dan for this one. 750ml corked and caged bottle into a Cantillon Zwanze Day stemware. Shared with schen9303.

Pours a big, fluffy 4 finger frothy light cream colored head with great retention. Beer is a slightly cloudy dark orange/bronze. Lacing is patchy and thick with moderate cling. A great looking beer.

Nose is crazy aromatic. Rotting, acidic hay, wet wood, cheesy funk, lemon, and tart citrus fruit. Grassy. Real dank and musty. Incredible.

Opens tart. Apricot and citrus. Wet wood, cheesy funk, lemon tartness, and grass. Dried hay in the back tickles the tongue. Cobwebs and grassiness. Real carbonated and prickly. A very light peppery presence right at the end. Aftertaste of tart wet wood. Very good.

Light bodied with moderate to ample carbonation. Prickly and aggressive in the mouth and dry going down. Finishes dry with a lingering, sticky, puckering aftertaste. Nearly perfect.

Easily one of the best gueuzes I've ever come across and on par with the other Armand series beers. This will age with the best of them and I can't wait to see how it mellows out and what other flavors might evolve and develop.

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Photo of jvillefan
4.51/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: The body is a dark yellow almost orange color with a quickly disappearing lacing of head that was an off white color.

S: Quintessential gueuze. It has the funk that gueuzes have along with a very earthy aroma. There was subtle citrus to go along with everything else.

T: Very crisp to start out. There was a pleasent souring along with some tart. The citrus flavors in the aroma match the flavors. Earth tones come in and finish the flavor off in a very pleasant way.

M: A little thin but to be expected from a gueuze. The carbonation bit was perfect.

O: A very well done gueuze. The dry finish makes this one of the best I've had to date.

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Photo of rudzud
3.66/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Shared with JLindros and company at the last whale tasting. Reviewed from notes

A - Poured into my Kate the Great tulip a hazy orange hue with a one finger head that leaves some nice light lacing.

S - Deep forest here, earth, but then... light rubber and leather. Really not a fan of the rubber tree thing going on here.

T - Taste is same as the nose. Nice lightly sour and faint funk. Some hay and then it finishes with burnt rubber tones. Really disrupts whats going on with this beer.

M - Mouthfeel is good. Lightly tart though on the thinner side.

O - Overall, not a bad beer, but not sure if its age or handling or what but that burnt rubber really kills this. Doesnt taste like one of Armand's best.

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Photo of Tnudish
3.69/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.25

Reviewed from notes. Tried side by side with the rest of the Armand’4s in early 2012.

A-Winter pours a cloudy/hazy amber orange in color with a moderate amount of off-white head.

S-The nose on winter differs from the other Armand’4 we’ve had, it is more perfume-like in my opinion. The funkiness is still there, but this is definitely perfumey in nature.

T-The difference from the other Armand’4s continues in the taste. This is sweeter in comparison to the other 3. It is noticeably less acidic, sour and doesn’t have as much funky punch to it as the others either.

M-Mouthfeel is light and creamy, with fizzy carbonation, light acidity, and a long finish.

O-This is definitely the weakest of the 4 Armands. I would be hard pressed to buy this for any reason other than completing the set. In my eyes, this is a sufficient drop off in quality from the other 3.

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Photo of starrdogg
4.34/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours an orange-gold with a fluffy white head. It's much darker than your typical gueuze. Smell is really impressive, a fantastic mix of oak, funk, sour and a bit of cereal-like malt. Flavor is a bit of a letdown after the amazing aroma, it's quite good, but doesn't quite rise to the heights of Lente. It's not as complex as I thought it would be, but it's rather drinkable. It's sour and woody with a nice malt character, but it's lacking the funky depth I expected. Mouthfeel is light with high carbonation. Overall, this is a really nice gueuze but doesn't blow me away like some of 3F's have in the past.

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Photo of FosterJM
4.17/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

1653rd Review on BA
Bottle to Tulip
75cl

2010 Bottling
Thanks Jazz for landing me a bottle

Split with GuruDel

App- A very dark orange without a lot of highlighting colors behind it. Had a very small formation of bubbles and was gone quickly. Didnt leave any stick behind. Looks almost identical to Hefst.

Smell- A great smelling beer. Not on par with Lente but quite nice. Didnt have as much of the citrus on the nose but had a touch more tart behind it witout being overly done. The flavors seemed a bit thicker on this one.

Taste- A very well done beer. I enjoyed this for the full crisp slightly sour citrus flavors. This was a bit more full than the others and am adjusting as so. More

Mouth- A small light body almost a good solid medium with a lighter medium carbonation level. Wasnt a fresh and popping. Lacking a bit of pop on residual flavors.

Drink- A very well done beer. This series is really something magical. Glad I was able to try all 4 of them.

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Photo of spdyfire83
4.17/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

302nd Review
75cl bottle poured into 3F geuze glass
Bottled: 22/04/2010
BB: April 2020

Winter is after Autumn; as such, I enjoyed these two beers in that order.

A: Medium amber. Only 5 (off-white) fingernail head on gentle pour. This one is carbonated too!

S: Earthy notes along with classic funk and must. Touch of hop character here as well.

T: Earthy hops with soft lemon, funk, and dull cracked hay. Crisp.

M: Light body with medium carbonation.

O: Nice and earthy beer. Very distinct and good. As mentioned in my review of Herfst, this bee could stand some age a bit. The earthiness grew on me a bit as the beer warmed, but this is the "worst" of the four of the "Four Seasons" series, IMO. Haha - laughable to say that, but one has to bring up the back.

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Photo of JoEBoBpr
4.36/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a tulip glass from a 750ml bottle.

Pours a gorgeous deep orange/amber with some nice haze and some copper edges. A nice off-white medium dense head forms that is about 1.5 inch tall. Very sticky and good retention.

Aroma starts off with hay and corn husk notes. Some nice barnyard funk in there. There is some nice sharp tartness that come up quick but doesn't linger too long. Nice sour apple notes and some lemon with slight vinegar hints. More citrusy than vinegary. There is some nice grain notes in the nose as well.

Taste follows the nose. Nice hay and husky funk. Then some sharp citrusy acidity and tartness. There is some slight sugary and fruity sweetness that comes up. There is nice sour apple hints with some mild vinegar notes. Then more of the grainy notes mixed in with the yeasty funk. Nice and dry. Mouthfeel is dry and tart with some nice citrus notes. A dry and bubbly finish.

Great Gueuze! Tasty, with some nice funky notes and sourness mixed in with slight sweet notes. As it warms its very nice and the sour notes blend in very well with some slight fruity notes.

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Armand'4 Oude Geuze Winter from Brouwerij Drie Fonteinen
95 out of 100 based on 66 ratings.
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