Without You I'm Nothing
Evil Twin Brewing


- From:
- Evil Twin Brewing
- New York, United States
- Style:
- Flanders Oud Bruin
- ABV:
- 6.2%
- Score:
- 76
- Avg:
- 3.2 | pDev: 18.13%
- Ratings:
- | reviews: 18
- Status:
- Retired
- Rated:
- Jan 11, 2022
- Added:
- Dec 06, 2011
- Wants:
- 5
- Gots:
- 6
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Reviewed by Sigmund from Norway
2.73/5 rDev -14.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5
2.73/5 rDev -14.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5
Shared 500 ml bottle at local tasting. ABV is 6.2%. Dark brown to ruby colour, moderate beige head. Sourish aroma of vinegar, oak and brettanomyces. Thin body. Sour, lemony and vinegary flavour. Not my cup of tea.
Jan 11, 2022Reviewed by rodbeermunch from Nevada
3.14/5 rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25
3.14/5 rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25
Consumed June 2017 round the pool.
Pours dark, looks like a porter. 1/4" brown head. The aroma shows it is not a porter (maybe an old world porter but I digress). Goes with some dark fruit, sourness, earthy dirt and forest feels. Seems like more of a belgo bdsa yeast possibly.
Taste just is another let down, another expensive Evil Twin beer that doesn't check enough boxes to think you didn't waste your money (again). Lots of vinegar and raisin feels. It clearly is neither competition for Tart of Darkness nor Oude Tart. Comes off as boozy. Its kind of a difficult drink. Should mention some nail polish remover going on here, this kind of reminded me of a few of the early Drake's barrel offerings (sour, if not intentionally so possibly). Caramel and black cherry aspect kind of compromised by the vinegar.
There is a bit of palate adjustment shock and awe, but once you get into the middle of the beer, you really start to hate yourself for buying another expensive low quality product from these bros.
Jul 31, 2020Pours dark, looks like a porter. 1/4" brown head. The aroma shows it is not a porter (maybe an old world porter but I digress). Goes with some dark fruit, sourness, earthy dirt and forest feels. Seems like more of a belgo bdsa yeast possibly.
Taste just is another let down, another expensive Evil Twin beer that doesn't check enough boxes to think you didn't waste your money (again). Lots of vinegar and raisin feels. It clearly is neither competition for Tart of Darkness nor Oude Tart. Comes off as boozy. Its kind of a difficult drink. Should mention some nail polish remover going on here, this kind of reminded me of a few of the early Drake's barrel offerings (sour, if not intentionally so possibly). Caramel and black cherry aspect kind of compromised by the vinegar.
There is a bit of palate adjustment shock and awe, but once you get into the middle of the beer, you really start to hate yourself for buying another expensive low quality product from these bros.
Reviewed by laituegonflable from Australia
3.44/5 rDev +7.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3
3.44/5 rDev +7.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3
Pours a murky dark, but clear, red colour. Sudsy white head, not much to it at all. Not much lace. Nice colour but otherwise pretty meh.
Chocolatey and Belgian on the nose. Lots of dark fruit and pie/cake spice. Sultanas, dates, figs and nutmeg, cloves. Slight tart note, but all part and parcel of the fruity edge. Intriguing.
Sour, and burnt at times on the palate. Largely a wild yeast note, with characters of currants, black pepper, brown sugar and molasses as well. Clove is big, some carbon and mediciney notes. Weird, a little off-putting at times but there's enough there to like.
Fluid mouthfeel, but a bit thin and a little bite at the end. Don't love it.
Not for everyday drinking; has some nice elements but it doesn't quite have as much balance as others of the style I've had.
Feb 24, 2013Chocolatey and Belgian on the nose. Lots of dark fruit and pie/cake spice. Sultanas, dates, figs and nutmeg, cloves. Slight tart note, but all part and parcel of the fruity edge. Intriguing.
Sour, and burnt at times on the palate. Largely a wild yeast note, with characters of currants, black pepper, brown sugar and molasses as well. Clove is big, some carbon and mediciney notes. Weird, a little off-putting at times but there's enough there to like.
Fluid mouthfeel, but a bit thin and a little bite at the end. Don't love it.
Not for everyday drinking; has some nice elements but it doesn't quite have as much balance as others of the style I've had.
Reviewed by ngeunit1 from Massachusetts
3.58/5 rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5
3.58/5 rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5
A - Dark brown with a bit of red mixed in and a thin finger of bubby off-white head. Fades quickly.
S - Sour cherries, some other dark fruits, some light funk, sweet caramel malts, some vanilla, a bit of oak, some acidity.
T - Sour cherries, dark fruit, vanilla, some funk, caramel malts, a bit of oak, some light funky yeast, some acidity.
M - Medium bodied, mild carbonation. Smooth with a sour finish.
D - A bit empty and rough. Needs a bit more depth and complexity for the style.
Jan 05, 2013S - Sour cherries, some other dark fruits, some light funk, sweet caramel malts, some vanilla, a bit of oak, some acidity.
T - Sour cherries, dark fruit, vanilla, some funk, caramel malts, a bit of oak, some light funky yeast, some acidity.
M - Medium bodied, mild carbonation. Smooth with a sour finish.
D - A bit empty and rough. Needs a bit more depth and complexity for the style.
Reviewed by JustinMatthew from Pennsylvania
3.09/5 rDev -3.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3
3.09/5 rDev -3.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3
Poured a brown-ish color with no lingering head to Three Philosphers stemmed wear. Smell is pungently sour upon being poured, vinegar, red grapes, cherry and wood. I think the nose was my favorite part of this. The taste is obviously acidic, very sweet, cherries, red grapes, some oak tannins. the most off putting part is an almost ashtray like flavor, not a fan and very evident. Mouthfeel is like red wine like, minimal carbonation, almost flat like. I enjoy a lot of sours and I think one falls somewhere near the bottom in overall enjoyment.
Nov 13, 2012Reviewed by 4DAloveofSTOUT from Illinois
2.68/5 rDev -16.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3
2.68/5 rDev -16.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3
poured into duvel tulip.
Appearance: medium brown bodied beer with a deep red hue when held up to light. 1 Finger of frothy thin white head that drops to a thin cap.
Smell: Big vinegar notes. Sour cherries. Musty oak barrels. Moderate funk. Yeah the vinegar is really powerful and a little distracting. Almost like a concentrated urine smell.
Taste: mildly sour cherries. Then it goes into a medicinal cough syrup type flavor. It finishes with a touch of vinegar, musk, funk, and oak. The cough syrup flavor ruins it for me in this beer.
Mouthfeel: high end of a light bodied beer almost a medium body. Moderate carbonation. Its drinkable and well carbonated, but its not going to make this beer much better.
Overall: Without the urine smell and the cough syrup taste... I think that this beer would be really good. The off flavors and smell really hurt this beer the most. I am not a huge fan, but to each his own. I would pass on this beer if I were you. Glad this was a bottle that was given to me, I might have gotten mad at myself if I had bought this beer.
Oct 12, 2012Appearance: medium brown bodied beer with a deep red hue when held up to light. 1 Finger of frothy thin white head that drops to a thin cap.
Smell: Big vinegar notes. Sour cherries. Musty oak barrels. Moderate funk. Yeah the vinegar is really powerful and a little distracting. Almost like a concentrated urine smell.
Taste: mildly sour cherries. Then it goes into a medicinal cough syrup type flavor. It finishes with a touch of vinegar, musk, funk, and oak. The cough syrup flavor ruins it for me in this beer.
Mouthfeel: high end of a light bodied beer almost a medium body. Moderate carbonation. Its drinkable and well carbonated, but its not going to make this beer much better.
Overall: Without the urine smell and the cough syrup taste... I think that this beer would be really good. The off flavors and smell really hurt this beer the most. I am not a huge fan, but to each his own. I would pass on this beer if I were you. Glad this was a bottle that was given to me, I might have gotten mad at myself if I had bought this beer.
Reviewed by dgilks from Australia
3.77/5 rDev +17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
3.77/5 rDev +17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
Slightly hazy dark amber-red colour with a smooth, small, light tan head. Fair head retention.
Wonderful aroma of cherries and balsamic vinegar. Some Brett funk as well. Good.
Fruity with some plummy notes on the palate. Lots of acid that gets better as it warm. There is even a little bit of roasted malt here. The acid is quite harsh but on the whole it works for me.
Medium body with moderately-high carbonation. Fine.
A decent beer. I like the way the fruit comes together with the acid.
Sep 12, 2012Wonderful aroma of cherries and balsamic vinegar. Some Brett funk as well. Good.
Fruity with some plummy notes on the palate. Lots of acid that gets better as it warm. There is even a little bit of roasted malt here. The acid is quite harsh but on the whole it works for me.
Medium body with moderately-high carbonation. Fine.
A decent beer. I like the way the fruit comes together with the acid.
Reviewed by lacqueredmouse from Australia
3.2/5 rDev 0%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3
3.2/5 rDev 0%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3
Bottle purchased from K&L Wine Merchants in Redwood City, CA. Shared with @LaitueGonflable and @tobeerornottobe.
Pours a murky brown hue, with a filmy, acidic-looking head of mild white. Pretty thick body, especially for the style, and the carbonation almost remains static when tilted. Very fine, spotty lacing. Looks flat, thick and a little ominous.
Nose is oddly savoury. Speckled salt and pepper sit above a round balsamic acidity the tends towards sweetness. The sweeter body gives hints of cherries and geranium. Very odd, and a little bit unpleasant.
Taste is maybe a little better. Here there's a woody note, much like an aged balsamic vinegar, but without the biting, cutting tartness that follows. There's a hint of dark grains giving a touch of biscuity sweetness, and a true slightly lactic acidity on the back the sharpen it up. It's pretty odd, again, but it works slightly better here.
Overall, it doesn't really work. It has such weirdnesses to it that aren't integrated or explained with the other characters or as a whole. Probably one of my least favourite sours.
Sep 01, 2012Pours a murky brown hue, with a filmy, acidic-looking head of mild white. Pretty thick body, especially for the style, and the carbonation almost remains static when tilted. Very fine, spotty lacing. Looks flat, thick and a little ominous.
Nose is oddly savoury. Speckled salt and pepper sit above a round balsamic acidity the tends towards sweetness. The sweeter body gives hints of cherries and geranium. Very odd, and a little bit unpleasant.
Taste is maybe a little better. Here there's a woody note, much like an aged balsamic vinegar, but without the biting, cutting tartness that follows. There's a hint of dark grains giving a touch of biscuity sweetness, and a true slightly lactic acidity on the back the sharpen it up. It's pretty odd, again, but it works slightly better here.
Overall, it doesn't really work. It has such weirdnesses to it that aren't integrated or explained with the other characters or as a whole. Probably one of my least favourite sours.
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