The Stoic | Deschutes Brewery

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The StoicThe Stoic

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Deschutes Brewery
Oregon, United States

Style: Quadrupel (Quad)

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.

Added by msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011

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Photo of pants678
3.77/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Surprisingly bright orange with receding white foam.


Spicy and a tinge of tang that skews toward orange. No roast or char or booze, maybe a tad citric. Needs more punch from the malt bill. Still prefer the traditional version but this is a fun change.

Full body

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Photo of polloenfuego
3.65/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Quick Review: The Stoic pours a light mahogany color with a decent finger's worth of head. There is okay lacing when the head breaks. The smell is sweet with the elements of a quad present: candi, dark fruits and a slight booziness. The taste is not what I expected. To my palate the pomegranate was easily the dominant taste, making this beer almost too sweet. Barrel flavors were minimal, and the sweetness buried the other quad elements. The feel was full with good carbonation.
Not the beer I expected, I would like to try fresher next time.

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Photo of Gobearswalter34
4.4/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

L- pours a beautiful Brilliant Orange that is hazy and the thin,white, creamy head. Lots of carbonation, and sedimentation.
S- wine barrels, sour and belgian yeast funk.
T- wonderful carmel malt combined with the Belgian yeast. Many dark fruits. Slight apple and banana.
F- lots of flavors that comes together well. Smooth sipper. Dry, clean, crisp apple finish.

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Photo of HardTarget
4.57/5  rDev +19.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

Personal cellar from 2011 opened Jan. 2017. Black wax sealed bottle, best by 2012 date.

Appearance: Hazy orange amber glass struggles to hold a thin halo of foam that doesn't lace.

Aroma: Heady grape esters, toffee, and Belgian yeast.

Taste: Rich malt, fruit is a bit jam like, only a hint of any booze in the finish, mild leather note.

Mouthfeel: Light body, warming alcohol, low carbonation.

Overall: A winner from the cellar, no signs of oxidation, full flavor, mellowed alcohol. Almost candy sweet with enough character to keep it drinkable and interesting.

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Photo of jngrizzaffi
4.21/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pours a cloudy light amber color (almost orangish) with some sediment. Has a finger width foamy head with good head retention great lacing. Aroma of apple and stronger raisin. Good amount of candied sugar. Big sweet raisin taste with mild apple and candied sugar. The alcohol is somewhat evident but not overpowering. Medium bodied with low to moderate carbonation.

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Photo of Blackop555
3.89/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours a hazy amber. Short bubbly head fades to light lacing.

Smells of pears and light banana. Seems to have a slight Belgian yeast smell.

First sip was apple pie almost. Subsequent sips reveal other fruits and sweeter flavor. Light malt flavors. I do not detect any alcohol flavor. Medium body. Light fruity sweetness lingers for a short time. More tart apple flavor as it warms.

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Photo of tigg924
4.17/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pours clear, gold in color with one inch head. Taste is apples, pears, honey, hay, and white wine. Complex, slick, and full bodied. Really tasty sipper. Glad I found this. I would certainly pick this one up again.

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Photo of enrique_m
4.53/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

look: amber red, white head, tiny bubbles, and nice lacing.
smell: funky and fruity.
taste: smooth, full bodied, and the alcohol is hidden pretty well.
overall: delicious.

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Photo of BSiegs
4.32/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Hazy, opaque deep red-orange in color. Minimal white head that has some retention and leaves little lacing. Rich maltiness in aroma, with caramel, toffee. Strong fruity esters, with slight notes of the wine barrel. Slightly spicy. Delicious and complex in taste. Again, a rich maltiness with spice, dark fruit, caramel, and toast. The slight barrel notes add a nice complexity, without taking anything away from the base flavors of the quad. Medium-light in body with moderate carbonation. Not overly sweet or bitter with a slightly dry finish. Overall, a wonderful and complex version of a quad.

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Photo of ricke49
4.24/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Excellent quad. Oddly it starts with an alcohol burn and then mellows to fruity nirvana. With fruity aftertaste sans alcohol. Slick mouthfeel. This 22 oz bottle indicates: best enjoyed by 5/2016 - so fully aged, and just in time. I commend Deschutes for willingness to reach out from their simple English style ale beginnings.

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Photo of megapyro6
4.12/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a Chimay chalice.

Appearance: Pours a hazy orange-amber. Half inch off-white head which fades quickly to lacing.

Aroma: Odor of belgian esters, caramel, and a little fruit. There is a slight alcohol aroma. Some honey type odors. Perhaps some floral hops or aroma peeking through as it warms. There is a lot going on, and it's a little difficult to hone in on particular components

Taste: Very belgian and complex. Esters, dark raisiny fruit. Caramel and honey sweetness blends well with the other flavors. Little to no alcohol bite. Not cloying at all. I'm not explicity getting any pomegranate, but it could be hidden in other flavors. There is a little bit of spicy and vanilla oaky flavors.

Mouthfeel: Full mouthfeel. Thick, but not cloying or sticky.

Overall: I enjoyed this. I didn't know much about this beer going in, and was expecting a dark ale going in. A little surprised by the relatively light color, but it's good. It's well balanced, and all of the component flavors combine for a very good beer.

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Photo of leaddog
3.74/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance - Pours an orange amber with a finger width of bubbly white head.

Smell - Vinous aromas, caramel, bready malts, dark fruit (grape, plum, raisin), hint of woodiness, honey.

Taste - Predominantly vinous along with grape, caramel sweetness, malts, and dark fruit. Not really picking up on the whiskey scale. Alcohol is well hidden.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. Smooth body with a lingering sweetness on the palate (close to cloying).

Overall - A Belgian quad that delivers on malts and vinous qualities, but lacks on some of the promised deliverables of whiskey barrel woodiness and pomegranate. I feel that the wine barrels take over. I would have liked to taste more fruity esters beyond grape. Not certain if this is worth the hefty price tag.

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Photo of TheSixthRing
4.09/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2015 Version, Best By Date of 05/08/16

Apperance - Pours slightly hazy and mostly copper in color with a half finger of head that fizzes away nearly before I can put the bottle down, leaving a barren surface with only a trace amount of bubbles around the edge.

Smell - Caramel, toffee and banana hit the nose first, then some tartness and musty grape. Distant clove spice.

Taste - Follows the nose. Prominent caramel and banana notes, with lesser clove spice. Big notes of 'white wine' character creep in by mid-taste. Dry, tart apple. Grape skin. Residual sugary sweetness. Finishes sweet with light, lingering tartness.

Mouthfeel - Medium to full in body with low, slightly tingly carbonation. Fluffy texture that dries quickly, almost like cotton candy.

Overall - Kinda tastes like a hefe with a splash of white wine and a spoonful of sugar. Between this and Not The Stoic, I prefer this, but I doubt I'd buy either again. Like most quads, I find too much residual sweetness for me to love past the first few sips, and the hefty price tag doesn't endear me to buying it again, either.

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Photo of biboergosum
3.73/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

22oz bottle - another American baby whale that has decided to come sniffing around up north.

This beer pours a slightly hazy, medium copper amber colour, with two fingers of puffy, loosely foamy, and certainly bubbly ecru head, which leaves some low-lying volcanic island profile lace around the glass as it swiftly abates.

It smells of strongly alcoholic phenols straight off, musty caramel malt, wan, yet still biscuity toffee, some wayward son yeast, a weak under your parents' basement stairs otherness, apple pie, poached pears, brown sugar, muddled baking spices, and some tame earthy, weedy, and perfumed floral hop bitters. The taste is rather sweet 'n gritty caramel/toffee malt, a heady sauced orchard fruitiness (apple, cherry, white plum, and bruised pear), well-behaved yeast, a bit of barrel oakiness (more or less indistinct between the wine and whiskey notes), lame spice, and a still understated by design earthy, leafy, and perfumed hoppiness.

The bubbles are pretty listless in their plainly quotidian frothiness, the body an average middleweight, and more or less smooth, only the hovering booziness proving any sort of immediate threat. It finishes sweet, but in a barely moderated sense - the malt and fruit characters letting themselves go just a wee bit too much.

Overall, this seems like the typical New World craft brewery way of fucking with traditional styles - were Quads not fruity or boozy enough in the first place, that they needed a double dose of barrel treatment as well? Not to mention the large serving size, the rest of which I will have to save for later (so not a bad deal, eh, future me?). In the end, not bad, but not worthy of the rather dear shelf tag, unfortunately.

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Photo of Slack
4.03/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Deep amber in color and a bit cloudy. Maybe ¼ inch of head and minor lacing in the glass.

Picking up a lot of fruit on the nose along with oak. Caramel is also present along with something floral.

Taste the same fruit with notes of alcohol, white grape/wine, oak, and sugar. Whiskey is absent.

Mouthful is medium with medium carbonation.

A departure from the typical quad. The lighter version is an interesting take. Lighter fruits really make the difference here. Very drinkable.

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Photo of HattedClassic
3.89/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours a nice white head that dissipates quickly but still leaves an inner ring around the inside of the beer glass (an Ovila Chalice). The beer itself is an unusual color. The color is a fairly light medium amber instead of a much darker black or dark brown that usually defines the style. Regardless, it looks nice.

The smell is a very fruity smell even by the stylistic standards. The aroma seems to consist of a mix between a pomegranate smell with caramel notes and a light whiff of wood from the barrels. The wine barrel note definitely ties the different notes together while the oak from the rye whisky barrels adds a nice whiff. The rye whiskey notes are definitely subtle but there and it works primarily because the pomegranate notes are light as well and complement the whiskey notes. Also, the wine aging seems to have mellowed the pomegranate notes to help it mix well with the whiskey.

The taste has the same notes as the smell. The taste is a bit more fruity and whiskey than the smell. The oak notes from the wine and whiskey barrel are still there but are not as pervasive. Rather, the oak seems to be one strong note that stands out rather than bind the taste together. The pomegranate taste comes out as well but more as if it has been fermented rather than straight from the fruit; it's not as bitter as you would expect. In addition to the pomegranate, there is also a mild orange hop bitterness. Overall, the taste profile is certainly interesting and complex but is very different from the usual guidelines.

The feel is very good. It has a very nice smooth feel that would be similar to whiskey or wine. There is very little carbonation to speak of but enough that it gives the beer some texture.

Overall, a very complex and very interesting quad. It certainly doesn't follow any of the style guidelines but provides a must drink experience regardless because of how subtle and complex the beer smell and taste are. Go for it.

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Photo of stortore
4.07/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle into a chalice.

Pours kind of an apricot color, a little hazy, with no head nor lacing to speak of. Smells of wine, grapes, light malt, yeast, a hint of smoke, a little black pepper at the pour. Taste seems to lead with wine, also light malt, some whiskey, some oak, caramel, hint of burnt wood. It's a touch sweet. Smooth, especially for the ABV, well carbonated, taste lingers.

Very enjoyable offering from Deschutes, well worth a purchase.

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Photo of imonhiatus
3.88/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

best by 8/4/12...oops...well believe it or not, this oldie is a goodie. nice transparent orange, weird for the style but she's a looker. look taste feel is all a bit syrupy but the age seems to have taken the bite out and it is an easy drinker esp at this abv. has some quad characteristics but this is no quad. pomegranate is evident, no booziness whatsoever though. I liked it!

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Photo of ccg
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours with a healthy foam that disappears quickly. Hazy, orange color.
When first poured, I can smell whiskey barrel and typically sweet, banana-like malty Belgian beer. The initial scent dissipates quickly, leaving a slightly acidic, citrus smell. After it warms up a bit more, it smells more like a sour than a Belgian.
It tastes relatively mild, compared to the way it smells. I can detect the wine barrel a little bit, but if it didn't mention whisky barrels on the label, I wouldn't have guessed it. As it warms, it's taking on more of a tart/sour/citrus character.
The feel is OK, but it has less body than I'd expect from a quad.
Overall: it's good, but I had higher expectations.

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Photo of beergoot
3.62/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2015 release.

Amber colored body; lots of fine, slowly rising carbonation; thick, fairly dense head. Toffee and vanilla scents; orange peel, peach and apricot; coriander. Sweet malt flavors; caramel; boozy notes abound; mild bitterness. Medium body leaning towards heavy; definite alcohol heat; semi-sweet finish with a sharp uptick of alcohol dryness at the end.

A fair quad that seems lighter in color and body and with too much of an alcohol burn to things. Still, the aroma is awesome and the palate can pick up some nice nuances of sweet fruit caramelized grain.

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Photo of jmdrpi
3.79/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

2015 vintage - served on draft, in a small wide glass

clear, dark amber in color, not really any head. very boozy aroma - fairly fruity. taste is fairly sweet, but doesn't quite have as much complexity as I hoped. medium bodied, a bit sticky, Overall, I was hoping for more dark malt flavor - quite a bit lighter than I expected.

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Photo of Darkmagus82
4.37/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

2015 vintage poured from bottle into a chalice glass

Appearance – The beer pours a deep orange-copper color with a thick off white head. The head has a fantastic level of retention, very slowly fading over time to leave a bit of spider web lace on the sides of the chalice.

Smell – The aroma is of a dark fruit smell of cherry, plum, and raisin along with a whole lot of a caramel and molasses sugar smell. Along with these smells comes some great aromas of a spicy smell with the spice being a mix of clove and coriander and with some yeast bringing some banana and a little bit of grass along with it. Other aromas of vanilla and some lighter fruits of apple and pear are also there as well and mix with the rest and a bit of oakiness and booziness to produce a fruity and warming sorta wine like smell overall.

Taste – The taste begins with a with a nice fruity taste mainly of lighter fruits with a good deal of apple, pear, and peach, but containing some darker fruit flavors of plum and cherry as well. There are nice hints of vanilla and caramel sweetness which persist and complement the fruity tastes very well. These tastes remain throughout the brew, increasing in the middle of the taste and fading just ever so slightly at the end. Toward the middle of the taste some light yeasty and spice flavors of clove and coriander as well as a little bit of banana develop on the tongue. An oaky French wine taste develops on the tongue as the flavors progress further, matching the fruity and spice flavors very nicely. In the end, the booziness increases a bit and with the nice fruity and wine like characteristics of the brew, it leaves one with a sweeter and crisp flavor to linger on the tongue.

Mouthfeel – The body of the beer is slightly light for a quad of 10.8 % with a carbonation level that is on the slightly higher side. The thin body was fantastic for the fruity and wine like characteristics of the brew with the higher carbonation giving a nice effervescent feel. Overall very well done.

Overall – This beer really rocks!!!! I am not sure I would consider it a quad, as its flavor (at least to me) was a bit more on the triple side of things with some hints of quad mixed within. Any which way you slice it however, this was a very nice brew and a very dangerously easy drinking brew overall.

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Photo of DrSpaceman
3.1/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Poured into snifter from wax sealed bomber. Clear golden amber, topped with thin head with little to no retention. Aroma is red wine and brett. Taste is buttery, quickly fading to tart fruit and spice. Body is very light, not what I would expect from a quad. Admittedly, I am not a sours fan. After initially kicking myself for not reading the barrels used in aging...I am pleasantly surprised with this bottle. Would I spend the money again on a wine barrel aged beer, not on your life. I however was able to drink the bottle, and not dump it down the drain.

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Photo of Fatehunter
3.81/5  rDev 0%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Pours a finger of head that quickly disappeared on a hazy straw body.
The aroma is lots of ripe fruit: plum, apricot and spices.
The taste is malt background with lots of fruit sweetness to the end.
The texture is softer.
It's really nice and fruity.

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Photo of plantshrub
1.98/5  rDev -48%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

Looks great, if a little hazy. Brilliant lazy copper.

Aromas of peach, pineapple, pomegranate molasses, and olives.

This beer tastes like a Kalamata olive with the pit still in it. Tannic, vingegaric, intense, overbearing, and not pleasant. Oily in a rancid way, if only to characterize everything I just said.

Feels a bit slimy, almost like an overly diacetyl vibe, and just ends up tasting really like a Kalamata olive.

Would rather use it as a salad dressing than something to directly imbibe. My teeth sort of hurt, like I just unwittingly bit down on some hidden olive pits.

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