Rice vs. Corn Syrup in Beer

WTF?
Some people have never tried Sam Adams Triple Bock? We can't seriously argue there is a beer worse than SA Triple Bock.

 

Ha... It's all a Jedi mind trick...this is not the rice you are looking for...there's no ingredients in beer, move along...

The nutritional panel is pretty straightforward and you can't really screw around with that. But where a beer label of this nature is "voluntary", are the rules different versus other industries? Or where it is voluntary, is it a case of there aren't very strict rules?

It really is different from where I sit - I've said before I see things in breweries all the time that would get one of our plants shut down in a nano-second (safety, sanitation, GMP violations). As a brewer, I would tend to agree with you, though. What you use to make the beer with should be good enough, otherwise how the hell else could you label it? Wort (water, barley malt, (enzymatically converted to sugar, (yeast added and fermented to alcohol))).....yep - I have seen labels with parentheses inside of parentheses... And if you are using other cereals, then you gotta list those the same way? Fahgeddabout all the ways hops come into the picture... But I think it is a good question - what constitutes a LEGAL ingredient statement for beer?

It's a marketing ploy and people are pointing that out. It's certainly geared to the masses, but it also takes another jab at the "craft" consumer and our "fancy" beers. Possibly it is also intended to force the other mega-players to follow suit. And if THAT wormhole opens and the voluntary labelling becomes mandatory??? Tell you what, I'd be opening a lab that runs nutritional analysis for the beer industry.

Whatever, it does prey on existing confusion and the tendency for the majority to take things on face value. I wonder what the social media pages of those horrible people using corn syrup look like today?

 

I don't think that the commercial was to convince MillerCoors drinkers to go to Bud Light except for maybe the people who haven't started buying into them yet.

But I think more of it is to solidify support for Bud Light among their consumers.

There are MANY beers worse than Bud Light. I say that as someone who refuses to drink it but will drink most other macro beers if the situation calls for it. But some of the Ice beers were more actively foul and I remember one of the bottom budget beers my friend tried to drink in Germany. Sold in clear plastic bottles. He put crushed year old mints that I found in my jacket pocket into it just to try to stomach that beer.

Well if AB brought in solid rice to their Jonesboro facility, cooked it converted it and then boiled it down to syrup to send to their other production facilities than someone could say they use solid rice but the cereal cooker step is significantly before the brewday.

 

If there were a negative impact, it would show up in studies comparing GMO corn to non-GMO corn. And the "evidence" against glyphosate is tenuous and relies on poorly-designed studies, most of which tested exposure levels that are orders of magnitude higher than what you would find in food.

 

Really? To me bud light tastes like shitty alcoholic seltzer water and seltzer water is already really shit. I'd honestly rather drink grocery store gallon sized vodka mixed with my own piss after drinking zombie dust. At least Coors manages to be inoffensive. Somehow bud light found a way to make a light beer offensive

 

We CAN seriously argue that there's a worse beer than SA Triple Bock. I see where you're going and I appreciate it but there ARE worse beers - by a lot!

 

I'm shocked! Shocked to learn this.

 

You can point out numerous contradictions. That does not make the opposite less relevant or without merit.
Not everyone is an idiot and quite a few people are well aware of the arguments for and against

• GMO
• Glyphosphate
• Monsanto
• OSHA
• FDA
• Nutrition Panels
• AB-InBev
• Marketing
• Corn Syrup
• High Fructose Corn Syrup

I feel I'm missing some things here, but that should be enough.
Yeah, the debate can be complex but why should it be boiled down to "The Masses are Asses" and it's all just corporate Bull Shit?

Cheers.

 

Cave Creek Chili Beer... like the poor mans Ghost Face Killah

 

Well. Say's you. You're wrong but that is OK.
I can respect you despite this lunacy.
Cheers!

 

And just for reference, even the Beer Advocate ratings agree with those.
Bud Light: 1.86
Key Stone Light: 1.82
Crazy Ed's Cave Creek Chili Beer: 1.73

Personally, I would rather have a Bud Light over DuClaw Sweet Baby Jesus.

I think light beers are generally boring and mostly tasteless; and Bud Light is about as boring and tasteless as they can come (although Coors Light is just a touch more watery I think). I'm no cheerleader for the light beer. But boring and mostly tasteless is better than some truly offensive tasting craft beers I've had, which is very rare, but it does happen.

We're all entitled to our opinions though.

 

You're just digging your own hole.

 

You like seltzer water? God that Perrier shit they sell is so bad. Bud lite tastes worse than a vodka/soda imo. That's all that light beer is supposed to do is be inoffensive which bud light somehow fails to me at least.

 

Not sure I said or even intended to imply all that. The beer label AB is using, nor the Super Bowl ad they ran, is targeted at the subset of craft beer drinkers who tend to know the brewing process more than the typical beer drinker. I believe the ad(s) AB ran is/are backhanded slap(s) at the craft beer consumer, but I'd still wager there's a lot of people out there thinking there's corn syrup in their can of Coors lite right at the moment and that it will possibly gain a life of its own for a while.

I get the point about contradictions and also agree that there are people who take the time to educate themselves and are aware, learning more than what gets "filtered" to us in different ways. I don't think the debate(s) can be boiled down to simplistic terms, nor should they be.

Cheers!

 

They are the TTB's interim rules - most other food and and non-alcoholic beverages have to follow FDA's mandatory labeling rules.

That is also spelled out in the TTB Ruling:

 

Whatever ingredients used or however transformed the end product contains alcohol which is a preservative the value of which I know because it has preserved me for quite a few years now.

 

I think I'll go buy a bottle of Bulleits 95 rye and quit drinkin' beer!

 

The commercial made me think of 7-Up. For decades, 7-Up was a caffeine-free soda, but they never really made a big deal about it. Then one day in the 70's, someone decided they should point this fact out, on their TV commercials. Sales must have went up, because it wasn't long before Pepsi and Coca-Cola came out with caffeine-free versions of their own products. It made me wonder, if this was such an appealing idea to the general public, why didn't Pepsi and Coca-Cola already have caffeine-free versions ? Probably because no one ever really gave it much thought, before those TV commercials aired. So we'll see what this Bud commercial does.

Try **New** Coors... now corn syrup free - ???

 

I'm not entirely sure what appeals to the general public has any real bearing on the general public's understanding of nutrition.