Papa Silenus
Odd13 Brewing

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Style:
American Imperial IPA
Ranked #1,418
ABV:
9.2%
Score:
91
Ranked #6,414
Avg:
4.1 | pDev: 10.73%
Reviews:
19
Ratings:
68
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Odd13 Brewing
 
Colorado, United States
Avail:
Year-round
Wants
  7
Gots
  13
SCORE
91
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Photo of Buck89
4.24/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Thanks to Wasatch for this one. Poured into a snifter. Nice hazy yellow color with a medium sized white head. Good retention. Bright pine and citrus aroma. The taste was a great mix of fruit and resiny dankness. Mainly grapefuit but balanced nicely. Good feel. Great beer.

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Photo of Wasatch
3.77/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

12 oz. Can
Canned On: 10/26/17
ABV: 8.5%

Poured into a Tree House glass a nice hazy pale yellow color, nice carbonation, with a nice kinda quick/creamy one-finger off-white head, which leaves an medium size oil slick, and some sticky lacing. The nose is hoppy, malty, with a nice little citrus complex (orange, tangerine, grapefruit, pineapple). The taste is hoppy, malty, with a nice little citrus complex (orange, tangerine, grapefruit, pineapple). Medium body, ABV hidden fairly well, big bitter finish. Overall, a tasty brew, quite a different take.

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Photo of zeff80
4/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured out a slightly hazy, golden orange color with a small, thin head of foam. It smelled of phenolic with strong citrus notes. Sweet citrusy flavor with grapefruit and pineapple notes.

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Photo of kojevergas
2.82/5  rDev -31.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Brief impressions from a can acquired as part of a 4-pack.

Imperial IPA brewed with Simcoe, Comet, Centennial, Amarillo (my favourite hop), and Citra. Fermentables: 2-row, wheat, dextrose. 100 IBU. O.G. 1.068. 8.50% ABV.

A: Healthy white cap over a slightly hazy pale yellow-copper body of average vibrance. ~8 minute retention.

Looks decent for an imperial IPA. Not unique or special. Colour isn't pronounced or robust. Head is pretty average.

Sm: Oniony Simcoe leads the pack, with Citra and Amarillo trailing far behind. Bright and floral, with that rare hop character I've heard described as "catty." Not pungent or oily at all, and there are only hints of the citrus and resin I'd expect from Citra and Amarillo. At least the Centennial floral hop character comes through. 2-row pale malt keeps it balanced; I don't get the wheat at all.

Aromatic intensity is quite light. Suggests an okay imperial IPA which lacks hop pungency.

TASTE & TEXTURE: Catty and floral, with some Simcoe oniony/garlicky flavour that is off-putting here even though that aspect of Simcoe usually works for me. No real citrusy or resinous flavours, to its detriment. There's just no real commitment to its hops at all; there's no hop pungency or vivid hop flavour. Thin 2-row pale malt is present, offering a weak counter to the weak hops.

Shallow and simple in build, lacking any intricacy or subtlety of build whatsoever.

Smooth, oddly off-puttingly dry, unrefreshing, light-bodied, overcarbonated. A more juicy oily brew with more body would be preferable. Thin and weak, with a stale feel on the palate. Overall presence on the palate is subpar.

OVERALL: A brew lacking harmony of texture and taste as well as basic commitment to its hops. ABV is nicely hidden I guess, but ultimately this is a shrug of a brew trying to compete in a market oversaturated with vastly superior options - whether local or imported. I can't say I'd buy this again, and it's worth noting it costs more than vastly superior offerings in the same style from the likes of Lagunitas, Deschutes, et al. I'd beware Colorado reviewers giving this emperor's new clothes ratings; it's pretty mediocre all things considered.

I'm wary about all this rhetoric about "Northeast Style (I)IPAs;" many drinkers seem convinced mere haziness in the body of a beer warrants the application of that term. The hop selection here - Simcoe, Comet, Centennial, Amarillo, and Citra - is perfectly in line with the kind of IPA Sierra Nevada might have brewed in 2005, not the tropically bent "hipster hop" beers seen in contemporary expressions of the IPA style from breweries like The Alchemist, Treehouse, Other Half, et al. (not that I buy into the Northeast Style (I)IPA nonsense in the first place). It seems the "Northeast style IPA" designation has jumped the shark and has become a marketing trend instead of a useful style distinction.

C (2.82) / AVERAGE

***
12/24/16 2nd impressions:

Oniony and thin, with a weak oily feel on the palate and a scattered unfocused hop profile.

C / AVERAGE

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Photo of spoony
4.12/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From a 12 oz can to a tulip glass. No date on the can.

A-The beer is not very attractive, but I suspect I am one of the few that place any value on how an IPA (or IIPA) looks these days. The head is yellowish white and roughly one and one-half fingers tall to start. Foam is dense and sticky, and retention is good. The beer is murky, but not opaque, and an unpleasant yellow-straw color.

S-The aroma is a nice, fruity sweet mixture in the NE style. I sniff pineapple, mandarin orange, guava, mango, a mild floral note and some honey sweetness. Bitterness is very low.

T-The taste follows the smell pretty closely. It is juicy and sweet with low levels of bitterness. I am not picking up much alcohol, either. A hint of astringency and aspirin sneaks in on the finish, but otherwise this is nice blend of juicy tropical fruit and light honey notes.

M-The body and carbonation are almost creamy with medium heft and softer bubbles. A touch sticky, but not overly so.

O-I am not entirely sold on the NE style IPA, but this is one of the better attempts that I have tried. Nice tropical fruit with almost none of the aspirin or astringent, pithy bitterness that NE style IPAs often give off. I would like to try this again.

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Photo of cosmicevan
3.55/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

the captain...sean...coming through yet again with even more odd13. heard this was canned about a month ago and the age shows, but still a tasty treat. more sweet and less hop assault. You can tell tha fresh this is a dynamo but the age hurts it.

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Photo of EnzymaticHops
4.53/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Pours a hazy, greenish gold. Not the prettiest to look at.

Upon opening the can, immediately greeted by a super-sweet and strong aroma of citrusy, juicy, floral hops.

Again, juicy and citrusy hops, with a distinct molasses like sweetness at the finish. I'm a biochemist, and one of the organisms we work with has a growth medium that smells exactly this (amazing).

Super sticky feel with a wispy white head.

Loved every minute of this beer. One of my new favorites.

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Photo of NolaHopHead
4.2/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

12 oz can. Cloudy light yellow pour, thin white head recedes to a thin layer, lots of soapy lace. Mild citrusy aroma. Taste is citrusy, bitter, grassy, touch of light malt sweetness. Dry finish with lasting dankness, medium creamy feel. Good stuff here, really liking this brewery.

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Photo of Beaver13
3.9/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

12 oz can. Pours very hazy dark gold with a medium frothy white head that retains fairly well and laces the glass some.

The aroma is some sweet fruit with lots of green resiny hops.

The flavor is sweet fruit and bready malts with a lot of peppery green resiny hops with a little onion. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with low carbonation.

Overall, a nice DIPA, but would be better with more fruit and less onion.

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Photo of raynmoon
4.35/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

New 2.0 2016 version canned 10/06/16

Hazy, bright yellow/ orange juicy, tropical, NE style goodness. Tastes like an Imperial version of Codename superfan. Aroma definitely reminds me Double Dobis from Cellarmaker; it has a creamy/ milky sort of aroma that is hard to describe. Not my favorite style, but some can do it well. It does have a strange lingering bitterness that I'm not sure I enjoy or not (as i love dry, bitter IPAs). Still really nice.

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Photo of MLDucky
4.59/5  rDev +12%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

This is right up there with Treehouse offerings in my opinion. Pineapple juice in color is a good way to describe it with a white head that turns into beautiful lacing. Aroma is some pine but citrus is the star here, very hop forward. Taste is a burst of pineapple, mango, citrus and pine on the tongue. I would have never guessed this is 9.2%, it drinks way too smooth for that with no alcohol presence as it warms. I was very happy with this, wish I could get more.

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Photo of frontrangefart
4.87/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 5

Pours pineapple juice yellow with a great thick haze. Good white head. Good lacing after a few sips. Smells of pineapple and citrusy hops. Tastes of mango and guava fruit with classic hazy hop character. Super juicy. Perfect amount of fullness to the mouthfeel. Overall best Colorado DIPA out there. Fantastic beer. Don't see how you could give it less than a 4.25. Oh wait, I know, it lacks the hype other DIPAs receive.

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Photo of parkcenterlounge
4.76/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

This is one of the best DIPAs I have had yet in the colorado region. It has a great color, and excellent feel to add to a solid tasting hop profile. It is hopped appropriately for a DIPA and still tastes very clean. Odd 13 should be put on the map for this beer.

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Photo of Buebie
3.51/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

I'm not sure what happened to the other cans from the pack, there is very little that could have happened without pointing fingers at the baggage handlers. I get home and there's one can...
I have super high expectations now, I only have one can, this had better pack the character of three other cans.

Started with a wall pour but it wasn't producing, ended with a vertical hard pour (VHP). Not much production, simple little half inch white head but a good lace display, white head.
Pretty clear beer, golden and mostly transparent, little chill haze. Not much else to say.

Aroma is solid, void of boozyness and that's good for the abv. Fruity pleasant aroma, even right away before it warmed up! Nice floral bouquet, lots of pineapple and tropical fruit. They should just rename this beer caramel and hop fruit basket. Rolls off the tongue really well.
Honestly a really nice tasting dipa. Gets a bit more bitter as it warms, slight aspirin hop flavors but there's enough caramel malty flavors mixing with the tropical fruit to mask that for me a little bit.

Mouthfeel had some character too, slick with a little body. Resembles a lightly carbed cask, is that even possible to tweak the carb lvls in a cask? I don't know the answer to that.

I wish I still had those other three cans but not enough to replace them next time I'm out in Denver. Bottom line, it's a solid dipa.

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Photo of LeeryLeprechaun
3.92/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Papa Silenus pours with a great rocky white head and golden color with excellent clarity. You can tell right away that the malt bill was very low in color.

Beer is a little sweet at first but has a nice crisp finish with hints of pine. No lingering or harsh bitterness just very smooth.

Aroma is full of citrus and grapefruit.

Very enjoyable beer. A nice showcase of hops without being rude to your pallet.

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Photo of StonedTrippin
4.2/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

i am so glad i finally got to go up here and check these guys out. they have been steadily rising as one of my favorites in the land, and to see the mothership was pretty cool. i have seen cans of this around, but finally got to try it for the first time. its just a bursting cornucopia of hops, tropical and pine both, and without the heavy oily content that makes some of the west coast ones so heavy and slow drinking. really hard to believe this radiant golden beer is almost 10% abv, it just drinks so much lighter than that. in the hops i smell citra and simcoe for sure, but there are others at work as well. must be mostly late kettle and dry hopped, as the bitterness is very tame, and its actually more sweet than bitter in the finish, but both hop aroma and flavor is beautifully bright. notes of orange peel and fresh pineapple juice in this, and a dextrose sort of sweetness on the back end. that sugar there is really my only negative, id like to see this dried out another degree, but the flavor complexion is fantastic, and its almost necessary to make the finish longer to prolong the hop experience, i can appreciate that. no yeast flavor here at all, weird for these guys, who are the kings of weird yeast. a little different, kind of a misfit in their lineup, but a top notch example of the style. one of the best going in colorado right now.

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Photo of Ri0
4.07/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

poured 16oz can into snifter.

A - Hazy golden orange with a 2 finger white head. Excellent retention that fades into a think collar and leaves thick lacing on the glass.

S - Bold and hoppy with green and bitter notes. Mangos, grapefruit, and a bit of pine intertwine nicely with the sweet malt.

T - Follows the nose with a big bitter big on the front. Taste is quite green with flavors of grapefruit rind, mango, pine notes. A mild sweetness creeps into the middle but the finish is mostly bitter.

M - Medium body with excellent carbonation. Certainly dry on the finish from all the bitter hops.

O - A very nice 16oz canned IIPA for all the hop heads.

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Photo of flixjones303
4.76/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

Can. Best by April 2015. Slightly hazy golden color. Aroma is pine. Pineapple. A little catty, but in a pleasant way. Maybe a hint of onion. Flavor is similar. Very dry finish. Slightly minerally. Great beer.

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Photo of quindog
4.51/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Updating rating on 10/11/16 due to the beer changing a bit on this new release. This incarnation, and the last few releases, have been 8.5%, not 9.2%. Canned five days before consumption. They subtlety dubbed it Papa 2.0, and I think that's valid given the change to the entire beer. Much hazier than previously and great citrus aroma, followed by a similar flavor profile. They tweaked the original to NE'ify it and it works beautifully. A truly exceptional double IPA, and a great revision to their first effort. This brewery can do no wrong lately.

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Papa Silenus from Odd13 Brewing
Beer rating: 91 out of 100 with 68 ratings