Averagely Perfect Beers

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by wspscott, Mar 9, 2015.

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Did you brew one of the beers?

Poll closed Mar 23, 2015.
  1. I voted for the IPA but did not brew it

    24.1%
  2. I voted for the IPA and did brew it

    34.5%
  3. I voted for the American Stout but did not brew it

    34.5%
  4. I voted for the American Stout and did brew it

    17.2%
  5. I did not vote for either beer but brewed at least one

    6.9%
  6. I am voting for the Saison and plan on brewing it

    62.1%
  7. I am voting for the Siason but don't plan to brew it.

    24.1%
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  1. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    I just poured a beer off one of my remaining kegs of the Stout (Averagely Perfect #2) and wondered how many people ended up brewing this beer. There was a lot of discussion/arguments/fun, but I can only recall a couple people mentioning that they brewed it. Ditto for the APA (Averagely Perfect #1).

    No criticism or anything is intended by this post/poll, just plain curiosity.

    For the poll, multiple choices are allowed, I think I have all possibilities listed. If you did brew one (or both), I'd be curious about your thoughts.
     
  2. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    My fingerprints are on all three polls. I have brewed APA IPA three times (it's locked in my rotation) and entered it in two competitions. Did not brew the Stout 'cause it's not a favorite style and it looked a little funky (in fairness, so did APA IPA). I'm a big Saison lover and have all the ingredients (including rte5) standing by . . . but . . . it's the funkiest of all and don't know where it would fit in my rotation. I did not vote above because I would prefer to keep my brew preferences confidential . . . hmmm, may have a little slip-up here . . .
     
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  3. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    Voted on all three. Didn't brew an exact recipe but very close to both so far.
     
  4. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    Added an extra question to your poll... Voting now but no plan to brew the Saison.

    Voted for IPA but didn't brew.
    Voted for and brewed Stout.
    Voting for Saison but won't brew (maybe next year).
     
  5. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    1. Brewed the IPA pretty much exactly to specification.
    2. I didn't brew the stout to specification. I had brewed a similar beer (roasted malts and American hops) in the 6 months prior to the polls and wanted something different. I also was not a fan of the decision to use Chinook. But I followed the discussion, voted, and let the results loosely guide me in making an oatmeal stout last summer.
    3. I have the ingredients shipping for the saison, and anticipate brewing pretty much to specification.
     
  6. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Might want to edit this again. The first couple should be IPA, not APA. Looks like he was going for APAIPA but forgot the IPA, which sort of changes the meaning.
     
  7. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    I didn't brew the IPA to exact specifications, but made a couple of tweaks to match the ingredients I had in stock (base malt, amarillo for cascade)
    I didn't brew the stout due to lackluster endorsement of those who did brew it.
    I'll more than likely brew the saison with a couple of tweaks (hard to justify buying even a small amount of hops when already have a freezer full)
     
  8. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    For some reason, I always think of the IPA as an APA, thanks for the correction.

    I have ended up liking the Stout and I really liked/loved the IPA. I'm really looking forward to the Saison.

    thanks to everyone who voted/replied, hopefully some more people will chime in
     
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  9. prock180

    prock180 Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2013 Arizona

    I didn't vote but I recently just finished brewing both. I did the stout first, a few months ago. Its drinking very nice. I bottled the apa ipa just last Saturday. Tasted very good though after the dry hop. Both recipes were the extract version and very small tweaks to both recipes as well.
     
  10. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    Another question, for those who voted without planning on brewing, any chance some of your votes were just F***ing with us? Anyone willing to fess up? I ask because there were some odd choices made with the Stout, I seem to recall accusations in that direction as well :slight_smile:
     
  11. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I've cast a few votes for the Saison and have no intention of brewing it. My votes were sincere.
     
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  12. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
    Pooh-Bah

    I've voted and brewed all the recipes so far.

    The stout is drinking mighty fine these days.
     
  13. TxNative

    TxNative Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2015 Texas

    Can someone post the link to the thread this is referencing? I just joined the other day so I wasnt present when all this was going down.
     
  14. Scumbag81

    Scumbag81 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2014 California
    Trader

    Look in the recipes sub forum for the two recipes (stout and IPA) to date. Saison recipe is in progress on the forums.
     
  15. TxNative

    TxNative Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2015 Texas

    Appreciate it.
     
  16. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    I've never voted to try to F the recipe. All my votes were to make the best IPA/Am Stout/Saison possible. I didn't brew the APA IPA because I didn't have the hops and refuse to pay the absurd markups at my LHBS for them. Brewed the Stout with a yeast tweak (refused to buy a yeast I don't have on hand). Not brewing the current Saison because I am tied up doing pilot batches for the brewery launch which will be using only Brett strains, and don't have time to work in the Sacc primary then Sacc secondary Saison recipe (even though it would be tasty).
     
  17. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Does F the recipe mean funk it up, like we tried to do with picking a Brett (non-Brett) strain? Does it mean laden it with US Fuggles to make a more earthbound Englishy American stout? Or does it mean what always means? :wink:

    I never thought anyone was trying to F the recipes intentionally; I just assumed everyone is embracing the spirit of the thing and trying to make the beer they think is best given the constraints of the previous decisions. Sheer naivete on my part?
     
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  18. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-averagely-perfect-american-ipa-project.59552/
    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/averagely-perfect-american-stout-poll-1-abv.131209/

    If you search the homebrewing forum for "averagely perfect" followed by stout or american ipa or saison you can look back at the fun. The saison is currently being debated.
     
  19. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    I'm talking about screwing the recipe making process like the Gang of 39 - just weighing the votes towards an undesirable aspect for the fun of it. Using a Brett that's not Brett and doesn't really produce funk anyways, then pitching it at a crazy high FG for more funk (which it doesn't make anyways), you know, that kinda stuff. Or trying to shove Fuggles into any beer, that just jacks it up.
     
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  20. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    I've made the APA IPA once. It was great, and that was before my foray into learning about water chemistry. The APA IPA is currently third in line in my future brews, although this time I will use the seasonal Burton IPA yeast from Wyeast. My brewing spreadsheet is already filled out and ready to go!

    I've yet to make the stout, but if I were to make a stout at some point, I would give it a go. I just not a huge fan of dark beers.

    At some point I hope to make the Saison. Cheers!
     
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